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[–] GhostshipResearch ago 

Those YouTube videos about "a mysterious and alarming number of missing children in the DC area" are complete horsecrap. They were produced by people who have absolutely no clue about law enforcement, investigations, missing chilren, the purpose and proper use of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, or wuite frankly anything else. They didn't even bother to check their facts first.

It turns out that this has nothing to do with #Pizzagate.

The rates of children advertised as missing in the DC area on the NCMEC website are fully explainable and entirely normal, with no drastic month-over-month change.

There are not hundreds of permanently missing children in the DC area in any month.

A proper search of the NCMEC website will reveal the actual number of permanently missing children is less than twenty per year, to include runaways.

"Missing children" is not synonymous with "abducted".

They falsely maintain that the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children website is used as a database for reporting missing children - it is not. The advertisements uploaded and removed there on a daily basis cannot be used for statistical purposes by merely viewing them on any given date.

They did not request the statistical data that the NCMEC keeps about the advertisements they receive voluntarily by law enforcement agencies. Even if they had, they would have confused this to be a reflection of the actual number of missing children cases in the country, which is impossible to conclude.

They stated repeatedly that the NCMEC serves as open-source intelligence; it does not. Its purpose is an advertising agency for law enforcement missing person investigations.

The actual record of missing children is the NCIC, and the FBI releases the statistical data every year. This is the only comprehensive law enforcement database for missing persons in the country, and reporting to it is mandatory. They failed to obtain this data as well.

Then to make matters worse, instead of acknowledging and apologizing for their errors, RealyCalls went to far as to accuse the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children of being incompetent for failing to conform to their stated falsehoods.

RealityCalls did mention my attempt to help them correct the record and even quoted me, but condescendingly dismissed this input because of my use of capitalization in absence of the ability to use bold/italic/underline text features on YouTube. I capitalized every point that they got wrong, and they complained because I used too many caps...priceless.

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[–] Infopractical ago 

"Those YouTube videos about "a mysterious and alarming number of missing children in the DC area" are complete horsecrap."

They are no more horsecrap than all your playing around with numbers was horsecrap on the way to learning math. They very simply explanation that they indicated a "clearly immense simple distinction between Virginia and all other states regarding missing children," turned out to be (apparently) incorrect.

That doesn't mean there is nothing to learn from the data, as I've alluded to with additional thought experiments.

In the meantime, you might better question why all this research must be done publicly, which is problematic because it means that an organization that might be purely innocent and beneficial in nature is subjected publicly to experiments and speculation. Why is that? It's because after decades of known pedophile rings being mostly covered up time and again (in order to protect powerful people), the public now has the motivation and tools to conduct the investigations that our government refuses to conduct.

RealityCalls has done a nice service on one piece of this investigation, but that is in no way definitive of the sources of data, which are still obfuscated or unrevealed in important ways.

"Then to make matters worse, instead of acknowledging and apologizing...RealyCalls went to far as to accuse the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children of being incompetent for failing to conform to their stated falsehoods."

That's not what it sounded like to me. It sounded like she acknowledges that a step in the investigation that she undertook with her stats contact yielded information that shifted the relevant set of hypotheses. And that's...reasonable.

There is no point in being angry that the world has not yet conformed to your claimed omnipotence. Just explain your position as best you can and keep thinking about the problem.

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[–] GhostshipResearch ago 

When I was “playing around with numbers” I may have wrongly thought 1 + 1 = 7 while I was learning math. However, if I was stupid enough to post a video on YouTube making the declarative statement that 1 + 1 = 7 without so much as attempting to confirm what I was saying was accurate or not, then I should also be prepared for people who knew a bit more about math to correct me and admonish me not to pretend I was a math wiz until I actually mastered the subject.

This #Pizzagate forum has rules in place designed to allow for thoughtful inquiry while maintaining the credibility of the investigation. Chief among them is the mandate that every assertion must have a corresponding source to support it.

The YouTube videos are not credible and are completely false from their titles down to the last second on air. Some of the producers of these videos have even acknowledged this fact.

What you heard in one such video was RealtyCalls quoting me and my contribution as a professional investigator and industry expert in setting the record straight.

RealityCalls has not done a “nice service” here. They have posted misinformation without so much as attempting to perform any research or fact-finding ahead of time. Then, they posted a second video that was a complete failure of an attempt to admit they were wrong in their previous video. And both videos only serve to continue to perpetuate the misinformation, because they remain on YouTube generating revenue for the channel owners.

It is a mischaracterization to state there is a “need for this research to be done publically”. What you are referring to is not research, it is misinformation. Actual data is available, feel free to quote it and use it as a basis for research to your heart’s content.

That does not change the fact that these self-admitted erroneous sources are continuing to be confused with and used as valid sources of the #Pizzagate investigation by people who are unable to discern between fact and fiction.

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[–] cantsleepawink [S] ago  (edited ago)

Well, as far as I am aware the NCMEC only have figures on missing children that they ADVERTISE. And there is an annual figure of 800,000 missing children from Reuters http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-usa-missing-children-idUSBRE83P14020120426. If you can clarify the situation that would be most appreciated because from my various conversations with individuals and agencies the situation is not clear - at least, as far as the public is concerned.

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[–] GhostshipResearch 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

There is a difference between being "reported" missing, and "remaining" missing after a prompt and thorough investigation. Your posted article quoted the NCMEC who offered one year’s data that they, in turn, received from the FBI's NCIC database.

The 800,000 figure merely represents those "reported" missing. Of those 200,000 were non-custodial parental “kidnappings” where the child was not in danger; 58,000 are taken by non-family members only some of whom intend to harm or molest the child; and only 125 were stranger abductions. That was not for Virginia, but the entire country.

The NCIC data is made available to the public yearly. In my thirty years of experience in this field, the only confusion I have ever witnessed regarding the purpose and proper utilization of the NCIC database and NCMEC advertisements, is what I have seen in the past two months on YouTube, Reddit and now VOAT as a result of misinformed individuals making public comment about things they know nothing about.

I am happy to answer any questions you may have.