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[–] SecureYourSeats 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

I think it might be wiser to post it under #islam because it is the protected religion right now. Christianity is currently the only religion that you are allowed to hate and discriminate against.

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[–] ByTheBook 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I would say you're playing with fire on that one.

Censoring Jesus has a direct reference to the book of revelation. Aggravating Christians has a less violent track record than the group you propose.

Also if they are Censoring Jesus, referred to as the way the TRUTH and the light, your censorship is on display.

The number of ppl using #Jesus should be higher now.

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[–] logjam 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

#revelations

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[–] BB-3 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They'd have to be bonkers to censor Jesus-related tags at Christmas time. The Christians would be raising Cain.

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[–] sleepingbeautycan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do both #jesus and #islam. That way we will be able to see which one makes it. If we are just looking for a rally point the extra characters won't be that important.

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[–] Blacksmith21 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I fucking second that. Good thinking man. Now we need a third and we are GTG.

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[–] SecureYourSeats 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

LBGTQ ?

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[–] SloppyDog 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Tying it to specific religious beliefs sounds like a bad idea.

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[–] CJJacobs 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

If Twitter starts banning something named #Jesus right before Christmas, people are going to lose their shit.

This is the one good chance we've got to keep this going in the public eye for longer.

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[–] SecureYourSeats 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Then call it #christmas. #Jesus is a bad idea then they get to ban two things that they hate at the same time, Christianity and pizzagate.

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[–] dindonufin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm not a religious person, but I do believe that this was the entire basis for this religion in particular.

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[–] 7167234 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Correct. Everyone here is looking at religion as an tool to keep the message alive. Why wouldnt they be our ally? Should they fight satanism?

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[–] wecanhelp 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I don't see how this

  • wouldn't alienate people whose religion we would be using as a tool;
  • wouldn't alienate people who are not religious and learn about Pizzagate associated with religion;
  • would stop Twitter from moderating our content on the grounds of it being dishonest or disrespectful to a religion;
  • wouldn't hide our own stuff even from us in the noise.

Sounds like a bad idea, but maybe I'm misinterpreting something, in which case please help a brother out.

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[–] CJJacobs 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Did try but...will try again. The point is in a movement/marketing so to speak to increase awareness it makes sense to start with a reliable base. The reliable base in this case, at least for the time being, is Christians.

You are not going to get a more 'all-in' base to believe this crap is real and that it is going on than orthodox Christians. We already get it. We know that evil is real. We already understand and believe that this satanism stuff is real too and so it will take very little convincing to alert other Christians to what is going on. The problem is too many Christians are still following the mainstream media narrative. I spoke with some people again this week who had not even HEARD of pizzagate. As more Christians start hashtagging #Jesus and getting woke and spreading the word, esp. to people in their circles, you will see an upswing in people in general --- from all backgrounds -- looking into this.

As a Christian, I in NO WAY feel offended by the use of #Jesus and nor do I feel that my Lord and Savior Jesus is offended by this, since it is sin and evil and sickness which He came to die and pay for. THis is what Jesus died for. Christians understand that. Far from finding it offensive, most will understand that this is exactly the kind of cause/work they should be supporting since it supports Jesus' way of caring for 'the least of these' ie - the most vulnerable -- which is at the heart of Christianity.

As mentioned, if Twitter decides to ban the hashtag #Jesus -- they will have a firestorm like no other on their hands. Remember when Christians went bananas last Christmas with Starbucks over a little red cup?

Times that by 1000.

Christians will go utterly bonkers (though not violently so, which is more than I can say for some Muslims, sorry) if #Jesus get banned. This would add more attention and awareness to our cause.

Hope this helps.

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[–] wecanhelp 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thank you. Unfortunately you're only answering two of the four questions, and even if I fully agree with your points (which I only partially do), I'm mostly worried about the second question that you're not addressing.

I'm fairly sure this attempt would significantly distract and alienate non-believers, divide the community itself, and water down its image, so to speak, that is currently based on critical, evidence-based thinking. If I, as a non-believer, think that you as a Christian believe in something stupid, and that your beliefs in said something rely on no factual evidence whatsoever (which non-believers, by definition, do think), and I discover Pizzagate closely tied with your belief, then I may suspect that it's also something stupid and people believe it without any factual evidence.

The media might hurt us less, but we're hurting ourselves severely, alienating an enormous subset of the critical mass we absolutely need.

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[–] mouserr 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

ah no, this would isolate a bunch of people who balk at religious terms because of the historical ties between various religions and the pedo problem.

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[–] CJJacobs 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

NO>

THIS is the most brilliant plan that has been come up with so far. Why? Because if we can post all our info under this IT WILL STAND A CHANCE OF GETTING OUT TO THE PUBLIC FOR LONGER than if we use any other hashtag.

If Twitter starts banning something named #Jesus people are going to lose their shit. Especially with it being right before Christmas.

It is the one good chance we've got to keep this going in the public eye for longer.

Voat is loaded down with shills at this point and many crap posts so that the good ones are buried. The mods are either too busy or too....? to bring us where we need to be as a group.

This is an excellent idea and I'M ON TOP OF IT. Will go over their asap.

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[–] CJJacobs 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

(As a Christian I will also say we need Jesus in this as much as possible! But I get that not everyone is a Christian. This is simply the best tactical idea we've had all day/week.)

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[–] UglyTruth 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

AFAIK the pedo problem in religion is limited to the beliefs deriving from the Hadith and the Talmud, it doesn't affect the core Islamic beliefs or the Judeo-Christian ethos.

There is also the advantage that theism is the Achilles heel of the civil system and there is a dichotomy between theism and satanism.

Like @CJJacobs said, try to ban #Jesus or #Muhammad and people will lose their shit. I think it's a good plan.

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[–] mouserr 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

yeah but by that same token a significant number of people wont bother with things under that tag because of the things theyd had to deal with because 'jesus' or 'muhammad' ... its entirely your call but if thats how it goes expect a rapid fall in support

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[–] Blacksmith21 [S] 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

It has nothing to do with religion. I has to do with the size of the hashtag and potential community behind it should it try to be suppressed. I'm not religious at all. Secular Jew. This is strategic. Not religious.

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[–] mouserr 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

the point is people who would otherwise help would skip right past things with such specifically religious overtones, especially considering that they appear christian specific. if you want to peg it to that nonsense thats on you but you will lose favor especially with those of us who have been trod upon by those who use that kind of language

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[–] VictorDaniels777 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Titus Frost mentioned moving to a steemit sub, where we can't be censored.

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[–] OtisFirefly 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1477022 Might be helpful at least as an intermediary.

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[–] Jem777 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Let's do it even now as we are on Voat!! #Jesus and also on Gab for those that have it. If we don't start it some disgusting shill evil bastard will attach it to something

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[–] OtisFirefly 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Still not feeling Jesus, everyone is bringing too much baggage and minimizing the broader appeal. Use terms non-religiously affiliated and I'll be on board.

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[–] Ronnilynn31 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

As a Christian, and not one of the screwed up, brainwashed, worship the preacher, new age kind, #Jesus works or #revelations. It's my opinion that this entire scandal is interconnected with satanic cult activity that has origins all the way back to the Bible. My 2 cents.

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[–] momojaja 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Hey team, I dont think we should singal out a specific religion, that is just not the kind of people we are here.

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