[–] CarltonD 0 points 78 points (+78|-0) ago 

Someone posted this 4 days ago I think it's the same kind of stuff with a statement from a victim who wants to remain anon. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1464850

I noticed it got buried quick here, it got a sub banned on reddit and the 4chan boards were shilling like crazy so it must be good stuff.

[–] dindonufin 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

Yeah this got buried by Colbert spam. They're playing our ADD crowd. Good thing our OCD crowd has our back.

[–] Sui_Juris 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

People with Asperger's will save the world! (Not kidding here!)

[–] isthisreality [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

hahaha. good stuff. ;p

[–] ZalesMcMuffin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Now THAT's what I call celebrating diversity. :)

[–] kingkongwaswrong 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

so glad theres an OCD crowd cause I'm 100% ADD crowd =/ what a good way to put it though

[–] Dorfaladin 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

So glad someone else noticed this.

[–] nitro169 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Everything is hinging on witnesses like this at this point.

[–] totesgoats908234 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It has been posted numerous times, different copy/pasta versions without a link to the source to make people think they found the information.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1465094

It is from here - https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Talk:Schillings_legal_threat_re_Arpad_Busson,_EIM_Group_and_ARK_Schools_to_911forum.org.uk_hoster,_16_Dec_2008

This is my comment about it - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1465094/7086970

[–] isthisreality [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The original post I made was 9 days ago- I think I included it in ^ post. Also, I have heard a few people say that others have started connecting the dots also between these people/institutions but the posts keep getting slid/overlooked. I would like to include others' posts in here too...they are very important. If I copy and paste the other post's urls in my post, will they get any kind of notification? I would like to get all the people that have been looking into this specific avenue together somehow so we can get a better/broader understanding of all of this

[–] tudda 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Someone once said "Soros controls Tavistock, Tavistock controls our government."

[–] Ang68 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Freud was heavily involved in Tavistocks beginning. Since the spokesperson for the Mccans went to work for the Freud Foundation afterwards, it makes one wonder....

[–] standalone 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

You can't use Goldman Sachs as the "link" between Robert Maxwell and Ark. Goldman is a bank. If you are going to consider that every client of the bank is somewhat linked to the bank executives and large shareholders, you are going to find a lot of spurious and meaningless connections.

[–] drunk420 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

ELI5

[–] isthisreality [S] 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

It is current, modern day MK-Ultra/Project Monarch. All the mind-control shit that we've heard about- how it happened in the 60s- and they stopped the program? No. It is still going... they have just realllly improved upon their methods. You want kids/other people for sex ? MK-Ultra. You need someone to stage a false flag? Get one of the people that have been programmed their whole lives and have them do your bidding. They'll be more than happy to do it. Need a spy/patsy? If you split someone's mind they will pass a lie detector test, unless the person administering the test recognizes and knows how to specifically test someone with multiple personality disorder/DID. And then you have people like us- the regular people/the mass/the zombies- through all of this, they also have control of not only the media, but chemical companies, the education system, pharmaceutical companies, etc- everything that is designed to dumb us down, not question anything, and "go with the flow". We are the "wage slaves". In the background of all this, you have the few, select Elites, that are working on evolving consciousness and pretty much.... i don't know. It gets too weird. I honestly don't know if I am understanding this correctly- but that's what I am getting from all this. I will add stuff later tonight, I haven't put everything in here. This is all, like, I don't know. Too much.

[–] DarkMath 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Thank you my friend. I believe everything you say. The only problem I have is the MK/Ultra stuff is a "hard sell" to the general public. It sounds Tin Foil Hatty if you will. Everything else is suitable for public consumption. What's my point? PizzaGate needs to be "sold" to the public in the same way the Elites have "sold" their lie. For us Deplorables the public's "entre" into this is straight up Pedophile hunting. No one can argue with that.

[–] PhilipKayDickens 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Can we create a separate subverse where we research this? Most people write this sort of connection off as being some kind of tinfoil hat trip, but I'm utterly convinced that this should be the cornerstone of the investigation. Putting it in a separate place would allow people to talk about it without getting buried in the mix and "discredited" by other people who think it is too much of a stretch (same thing they do with the Luciferian cult angle). I think it is just one too many red pills for people, even those that are fully invested in Pizzagate, but it is a completely legit angle that needs to be investigated as thoroughly as possible, and from your posts I get the impression that you are as frustrated as I am that more people are not taking this seriously. If there is overlap in the investigations, we can always cross-post. The beauty of this kind of crowd-sourced, non-profit investigation is that people can branch off and investigate separate things without weakening the overall investigation.

[–] spez_dispenser 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You're brilliant.

[–] Freemasonsrus 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Honestly people need to start looking outside and working their way back into CPP, (not that you linked directly back into CPP), but that there is a much larger picture, the details of which we will probably never know even 100 years from now. However, in an investigation it's important to not just work straight from the source and then out. There's been enough talk about illuminati, Freemasons, new world order, Tavistock, Soros, ect that I think it's important to do the great work you've done here and tie the links backwards. I've wondered if Achilles started as a victim first or if his family was connected. From what I can tell, if you are inside these ranks, it's one or the other. On a side note, when thinking about "victim" it reminds me of his BF Brock. No one here has spent too much time on him, but he's much more connected than JA. I'd love to know why someone who started (in 90's) as a supposed Republican, wrote a book not flattering to BC, and was working on a book exposing HRC, when suddenly he completely changed his tune. The book released was a softball and then he had the "great awakening" that he was now a Dem who was going to go after Republicans. So....what exactly did they hold over his head? He went full throttle crazy, CTR, owned by Soros in a nanosecond. I assume the dirt or threat must've been pretty interesting...

[–] chlrndrmz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Their families are connected going all the way back to Nimrod. Before Nimrod all the way back to Cain whose true father was the serpent. ... Maybe crazy ass David Icke wasn't so crazy after all🤔 I've heard testimony from multiple illuminati defectors that a reptilian bloodline is true. Is hard for me to believe even after witnessing someone's eyes changing from normal to those of a beast. My brain still tries to rationalize what I witnessed.

[–] CJJacobs 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

E Michael Jones connects most of the dots if you look him up.

[–] Freemasonsrus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I will check him out. Is there a specific link or video that would give a good idea of what he teaches?

[–] ProbablyHoly 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The Esalen connects directly to pizzagate for one of it's speakers included Robert Anton Wilson who is responsible along with Robert Shea for developing the notion of "Hot Dog Friday", in his discordian works and in particular Illuminatus.

I recommend you read the words to "Play Me Backwards" by another speaker there, Joan Baez. Let the night begin there's a pop of skin And the sudden rush of scarlet There's a little boy riding on a goat's head And a little girl playing the harlot There's a sacrifice in an empty church Of sweet li'l baby Rose And a man in a mask from Mexico Is peeling off my clothes

The Esalen is the migratory winter home of the MONARCH BUTTERFLY.

[–] isthisreality [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Also- I just edited this into my post: And from what I understand- what I make of all of this- there seem to be maybe 3 different ... broad groups of people. All the mind-control shit that we've heard about- how it happened in the 60s- and how they stopped the program? No. It is still going... they have just realllly improved upon their methods. You want kids/other people for sex ? program them. You need someone to stage a false flag? Program them. They'll be more than happy to do it. Need a spy/patsy? If you split someone's mind they will pass a lie detector test, unless the person administering the test recognizes and knows how to specifically test someone with multiple personality disorder/DID. And then you have people like us- the regular people/the mass/the zombies- their tentacles are literally in everything- they also have control of not only the media, but chemical companies, the education system, pharmaceutical companies, etc- everything that is designed to dumb us down, not question anything, and "go with the flow". We are the "wage slaves"...the little worker bees, if you will. And of course, in the background of all this/behind the scenes, you have the few select Elites, that are working on evolving consciousness and pretty much.... i don't know. It gets too weird. I honestly don't know if I am understanding this correctly- but that's how I am interpreting what I've seen regarding this. I will add more stuff to my post on voat later tonight, I still haven't put everything in here. This is all... I don't know. Too much.

[–] Blowitwideopen 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I have info regarding this, but don't know how to post anon.

[–] DoughMallet 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is exactly what I've been researching. Amongst other things of course, and I completely agree with you. I don't think people understand the depth of this shit, not even here.

This is precisely why every connection is important. I'm starting to think that this is something beyond comprehension, like everyone has been caught in a huge spider web. It feels like anything and everything could be a sham. This is something that's operating at every level.

[–] chlrndrmz 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

The problem I see is that people have been conditioned to believe empirical evidence as the sole method to prove things. The problem is our senses alone cannot explain most of these people's occult practices without sounding crazy. First of all Francis Bacon, the father of the empirical model was an occultist. Secondly, there is no difference between science and the occult. One deals with the physical world while the other deals with the spiritual one. That being said, in order for people to understand this crazy world we must be open to the idea that a spiritual world literally exists and that science is being used to rip open the veil which separates both creations. The sooner you accept this, the easier it will be for you to understand what is being done by the elites. They know other life forms exist outside of our physical world. All those ritual practices they perform are done to literally open portals to the spiritual world. And They are very close to opening a permanent portal that will allow spiritual life forms to be anchored to ours. They want to use humanity as their anchor babies so they can have permanent access and complete rule over us. The huge hurdle those entities have is that humanity must accept them voluntarily. That's the reason why deception is their main form of pushing their agenda. However they have to do it incrementally or else people will rebel against them. Everything that is being done by elites is to condition us and receive them with open arms as the seviors of humanity. Research every renowned satanist/luciferian and you will find that all of them communicated with spiritual entities channeled through various forms. Their ultimate goal is to intertwine the physical and spiritual worlds. They will succeed too and most people will not be able to handle it. The craziness of PizzaGate is mearly a blurred foggy glimpse into the true reality of our existence. You have seen nothing yet folks.

[–] thetimeisnow_ 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Thank you for this.I have been following this story from 4chan & I have been waiting for someone to write n connect this whole thing into much beyond what the eyes can see.It is the only way to understand our physical reality & all the crazy stuff going on in this world along with the pizzagate realted stuff. I always felt something is so so very wrong with our world,couldn't figure out what.For me this is what I wanted to listen for so long that I don't feel I am crazy to be so negative about the whole situation on our planet. We look for logics to prove what is right or wrong , and the minute you get really really logical none of the stuff going on this planet makes any sense,it is like that in every part of the world. I am from India, here it is beyond nightmarish for people to believe in any of the stuff related to pizzagate.I am being laughed at among frens to believe in it.But I do,from the core of my heart. THANK YOU!! Sorry for the rant, got too emotional vid the post.

[–] Brownpolyestershirt 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Would you mind pointing me in the right direction to get a better handle on this? Some websites or literary titles? I've recently awoke and it's been overwhelming, terrifying, and confusing. I need to direct my focus to better understand. Thank you.

[–] threat-is-found 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think keeping mysticism and spirituality out of this conversation is what would be best for the investigation. If you have empirical evidence of these channels and spirit realms you speak of, i would be delighted for it to grace my eyes, but until then lets not go on a literal witch hunt.

[–] isthisreality [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

what i think too is really bizarre- is that i always am on some kind of ocd kick. right now its pizzagate/whateverthefuck this is. within the past three years i was super obsessed with quantum physics, nikola tesla, consciousness, and energy. But anyways- I pretty much did the same hardcore digging with those subjects as I have been with this pizzagate shit... and i will be damned if what you said is not true. If it weren't for all the past digging ive done on random (seemingly meaningless at the time) subjects- its like... i dk, its so unbelievable to me how all of it is coming together now. quantum physics and spirituality/consciousness go hand in hand- like what you were saying. if i had read what you wrote 4 years ago, I would have written you off as crazy lol. My question is... what are we supposed to do now?

[–] isthisreality [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah, I haven't put all theinfo i have in here yet, but what you said is pretty much spot on.

[–] DoughMallet 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If we actually beat this thing, it could be global chaos.

[–] GeneralProductsHull 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

since this is at the extreme end of the system's you're working to illuminate, I'm just gonna leave this here.

Jack Parsons founded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Operation Paperclip had, I believe already commenced. Jack Parsons was very close friends with Aleister Crowley and did two things that brought a terrible energy into this country.

In the desert North of Los Angeles (China Lake area) Parsons and Crowley performed a witchcraft spell. They summoned (I believe...) Moloch. Shortly afterward, Parsons wrote a two-page book called "AntiChrist". If you read it, be warned...

J.P.L and N.A.S.A. were populated with the most brilliant Nazi scientists/occultists. This is when the Black Projects really took off. Skunkworks, Pentagon, C.I.A. - Billions of dollars a year have been poured into them ever since.

Your "scribbled" notes appear to refer mostly to "Social Engineering". But the real enchilada is what these monsters built. It actually frightens me a bit. An example (I haven't seen it debunked yet, so... not sure) Jesse Ventura did a piece on an underground network that ran an estimated 1,400 miles under Texas, all the way to the East coast. I wondered if a large portion of the flood of able-bodied Latin American males could have been diverted to this underground system and subject to mind-control/conditioning to be used as an army against the American people. That idea frightens me.

But to the point of the post, Trillions of dollars have been diverted from the American treasury for Black Projects. Some are Social Engineering, some are Weapons/Hardware etc and some are well... unknown.

2017 will be a very, very interesting year. The potential disclosures could be paradigm-shifting.

[–] chlrndrmz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You might enjoy this video. It deals with what you speak of https://youtu.be/AiBSHcZ5lkI Just remember that the entities contacted by parsons, Crowley, Sitchen et al are not what we think of as aliens. They are metaphysical beings from a dimension outside our own.

[–] lemonfriendship 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

2016 was interesting to me in that the 16th card is The Tower. What man could be more thoroughly associated with a tower than The Donald? lol

Next year, 2017, would be associated with The Star by this "logic". Could get very interesting.

[–] Dorfaladin 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Dude thank you!!! Wanted more info on all of this.

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