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1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities. See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
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[–] heks_ 1 point 30 points 31 points (+31|-1) ago
I strongly support this kind of objectivity and fact-checking. Good job.
[–] Gottor 0 points 12 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago
^ I second the above post. I really appreciate the fact-checked list of code words from the OP. However, please provide proof/links of the exact origins of the code-words, if possible. I believe it is crucial for the pizzagate investigation to show everyone where the known pedophilia slang came from. Otherwise, for instance, some might argue that Pizza, etc, could be a code-word for something else (such as drugs).
[–] PizzagateConspiracy 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago
Agreed. We need to be as non-biased and scientific about this as possible.
[–] Noctu 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
whats scientific about putting a green tick next to the word and saying its true?
[–] dindonufin 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Yeah, I've always taken this list with a grain of salt. I'm pretty sure that pizza is just a general codeword for sex slaves/sex with children OR child pornography, derived from "cheese pizza" (CP, child pornography). It also may be a reference to PIE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
Remember nothing is exact with these monsters. Everything can be and will be modified, including their symbols. This is one way they stay undetected.
[–] orwellforpres ago (edited ago)
It's needed. Also, rethink this good old odd sentence based on the post: "Do you think I'll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?"
[–] Ottar 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago (edited ago)
Thanks OP for compiling this, though I would like to see the definitions in the informal dictionaries and examples of it being used outside of the wikileak emails.
[–] pizzathrowaway 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
If "informal dictionary" just means "urban dictionary" I'm really not sure that proves anything. I'd consider this confirmed if there was any kind of law enforcement authority or academic saying that pedophiles really use these words.
[–] ThePuppetShow 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Yeah, law enforcement seems real eager to admit this is going on, even back to the Franklin coverup. Acedemic? Really? You have to be trolling.
[–] ALDO_NOVA ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1435754
[–] jayna 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Can someone explain "map" in the context of this email? Email link
So the handkerchief has a map on it and map=semen according to this thread. That sounds like he left a handkerchief with dried semen on it just lying around. Except the handkerchief is described only by its color so how would you know it had a "map" on it by that description alone? And even if white=semen why would anyone nonchalantly send an email like "hey I found a handkerchief covered in jizz, want it back? I'll mail it" Am I misunderstanding the email or does map mean something else in this context?
[–] azamber 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
It could just be a hanky. I inherited one from my mother that has a map of CA. It's theme is flowers. I would expect these rich types to spend more than just a few dollars on one, so it might have been worth emailing over. Not a shill, just trying to think of this all as critically as possible. I've been transfixed since the start and am waiting for that smoking gun, just like everyone else.
[–] jayna ago
That also doesn't make sense. The person who found the handkerchief says "I just came from checking the Field house and I have a square cloth handkerchief (white w/ black) that was left on the kitchen island." Yet the next person tells Podesta it has a map on it.
[–] SherlockMcGyver ago
In LGBT lingo, MAP is Minor Attracted Person.
[–] jayna ago
I specifically said "in the context of this email"
[–] MrrHandsome ago
Its something to do with the Satanic part of the childsex, its been drawn by Alefantis'favourite artist which he used for his murals in Comet Pizza. They put the handkerchief under the baby/child whilst they rape them.
[–] dontsuicidemebro ago
I am not sure if it is related but handkerchief code is an established thing in the gay community to indicate sexual preference/kinks, it has a wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handkerchief_code
[–] jayna ago
Hmm, I have heard of this before. Maybe it's a "map" of your kinks. If white and black means something, that would make sense how they knew to tell Podesta it had a "map" on it
[–] Eazyg2002 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
chicken lover
http://odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&t=70a4ae9caeb0a26b6aa4b1a65bac
If both meanings are true, it is a possibility that #chickenlover comment was in reference the father in that pic.
Could this second meaning have been added more recently to debunk the theory? There are acticles using this source as definitive proof of the first meaning, which seems strange https://www.counter-currents.com/2016/12/pizzagate/
Is there another source for the meaning of chicken lover?
[–] rush22 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
The second meaning is true. It's an older term though and not really in popular use these days. Gay men refer(red) to young vulnerable guys that are new to the scene as "chickens". Older guys that chase them are "chickenhawks". "Twink" is more popular these days although it has slightly different meaning.
Keep in mind:
a) Being attracted to younger men (or women) isn't the same as being a pedophile. There's probably more "barely legal" straight porn out there in terms of volume.
b) When being gay was less accepted, there was (and still is to some extent) a substantial influx of young vulnerable gay guys confused about their sexuality that run away from home or get kicked out of their house. If they're lucky, they find themselves a group of friends and mentors that can support them and don't get preyed upon--but they're still "chickens".
[–] SherlockMcGyver ago
Negative, that is the meaning of that term. It is quite well known and used in the gay community, which seems pretty accepting of pedos.
[–] PromiseKeeper 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Yes someone needs to make a list with screenshots and other sources of proven code words and PUT THE LIST AS A STICKY AT THE TOP OF THE CHANNEL.
[–] thezodiac 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Good effort but weak fact-checking. The fact that the term exists in informal dictionaries doesn't mean shit, if you don't analyse the context of the emails. You said pizza = girl and map = semen. So they found a handkerchief with girl-related semen on it? It doesn't make any sense. Also, cheese is not little girl and pasta is not little boy. You don't send a little boy in a box.
PS: I'm not a shill, but I think this list is very wrong.
[–] IceDagger316 ago
Not alive at least...
[–] thezodiac ago
I think they have to be alive to play dominoes with them, lol
[–] Noctu 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
What fact checking? you put a green tick on a piece of text and said its factually correct, with what backing, urban dictionary? oh ffs
and you got 99 upvotes. what kind of seal clapping morons are in this sub, really.
[–] jayna 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
MAP can also be code for "minor attracted persons". A lot of pedos on reddit call themselves maps.
[–] xeemee 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
just one resource which confirms this (there are many):
[–] pizzathrowaway 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
but that doesn't make sense in the sentence either!
[–] SherlockMcGyver ago
It does if the MAP is Alefantis and they didn't want to name names.