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[–] antipedo 3 points 17 points (+20|-3) ago 

Suggested path to deal with this situation:

  • in the light of stronger and stronger accusations that Russians messed with the elections, it is absolutely necessary to distance ourselves from them
  • my suggestion is to finally deal with being called "fake news". It doesn't take much. There is a lot of circumstantial, but appealing evidence.
  • This has been compiled into a graphic already, but mixed with ufo/chemtrails level of bullshit, so nobody took it seriously.
  • Hint: take two-three Podesta emails, a few Instagram pics, and present them in a graphic. No sensationalism! Less is more! Let people decide.
  • Then post on a reliable website, e.g. Wikileaks Wiki.
  • when the question of reliability comes up, point to this website.
  • Last but not least, keep psychos on a leash. Our own people can do more damage than shills.

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[–] darkofthemoon 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

There is some very convincing evidence that Wikileaks was compromised at the time when Julian Assange's Internet was cut. No longer signing anything with pgp keys. No real proof of life for Assange, only increasingly less plausible excuses. Promised earth-shaking leaks not coming. Generally acting out of character. As far as I'm concerned, Wikileaks is currently a honeypot and no one should submit anything to it.

Also, there is no point in distancing ourselves from Russia when there was no connection in the first place. Active distancing would in fact be seen as protesting too much and would make the Russia connection more plausible in the minds of people.

And another thing, uninformative infographics only make it look like there is no real evidence. The research has advanced a lot from the early days. A few Podesta emails + a few Instagram pics doesn't even explain why there's a connection between the emails and the Instagram. Podesta talking about what looks like coded language of some sort + some other guy with a weird Instagram will not convince anyone of a massive pedophile ring involving top politicians.

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[–] Hermesthriceborn 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The oft-overlooked character is Tamera Luzzato, former HRC Chief Of Staff, prior to that served under a rockefeller for 14 years I believe, anyway she is implicated multiple times citing luzzato-palooza's with podesta mentioned including her own Evie's crib fucking disgusting ass shit.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/47943 Luzzato Palooza

https://dcpizzagate.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/sketch.png Weird Evie's crib shit

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[–] pizzagatewillnotdie 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] chickyrogue 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

they want wwiii they make alot of $$$ soft kill or hard kill

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[–] Meta_Self 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

What strong evidence for Russian intervention?

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[–] happy_snek 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"The Russians hacked Hillary's server and leaked emails to the world! That fucked the election!" Nothing but accusations. If Hillary didn't have such shitty security practices, there wouldn't be the problem of the world going through her/USA/world secrets right now. Fault's clearly with her and her team on this one.

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[–] ababcb 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ironically, all talk about "Russian intervention" is literally fake news.

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[–] juhos 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Basically none. Only real reference I have seen was misused fact that Guzzifer used a Russian proxy.

Considering the facts that these people (Hillary, Podesta etc.) used own gmail-emails, secret servers, passwords like "p@ssw0rd" and probably falled for that phising-email with a bitly-fucking-link, the hacker might has been as much 13 year old scriptkiddie from Hillary's neighbor, as some "Russian mega hacker".

There is a real reason why you SHOULDN'T use your own channels. But when you have a lot to hide, I guess you have no choise.

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[–] Balour 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Here's 2 of the nicer infographics: http://sli.mg/PqR9pK

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[–] antipedo 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Nah, man, still not it.

My first though: there's a "pedo dictionary" on the left, but not a single hint on the source. To a skeptic it looks like one may have produced the dictionary bu guessing from context. It would be reverse-engineering, adjusting the proof to the claim. That's a no-no, chemitrail level crap.

We did guess those meanings, but we started with a solid ground. That is not mentioned anywhere.

TLDR: reliable sources needed! ("reliable" doesn't mean common media; it could even be a Reddit post discussing the meaning of those words, - that would convince nonbelievers).

SUMMARY: still weak proof...

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[–] srayzie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thank you!

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[–] TheAwakening 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Jesus, even though I have been head deep in this stuff, it still throws me off how easy it ties together... and how disturbing the images are.

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[–] rivalin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There's fuck all evidence Russia messed with the election. You need to "disavow" Russia? That's ridiculous.

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[–] Meta_Self 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I found the bill, it's HR 6393: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/6393

I think this is the relevant part of the bill:

"The bill establishes an executive branch interagency committee to counter active measures by the Russian Federation to exert covert influence over peoples and governments. It places travel restrictions on personnel and consulars of the Russian Federation in the United States."

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[–] therealchedca 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

"space-based environmental monitoring missions and acquisition programs to meet national security requirements for cloud characterization and theater weather imagery;"

^ this could mean anything

"The ODNI must implement a uniform policy to ensure the independence of inspectors general of the intelligence community, the ODNI, the CIA, the NSA, the DIA, the NGA, and the NRO. Inspectors general must report directly to Congress when an employee's urgent concern involving classified information or false statements appears credible. "

^ Again so poorly worded, implications could be broad. This appears to indicate tightening of the reigns on their own intelligence people, in cases of "urgent concern" 's made by intelligence staff - such will be reported to congress.

This puts low level intelligence people , who are witness and privy to some really awful information, in a lot of danger in the long run. We can expect them to realize this and as such we should be prepared to vet and handle another Snowden level leak soon.

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

With all that weird throw-back "It was da Russians!" dog-whistling during the election, this feels like a remnant of Hillary's intentions for her expected successful seizure of executive power. Everything counter to her cabal's narrative would instantly be labelled "Russians!!!" and shut down. Now they're trying to bring it in while Barry still has the house keys.

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[–] DarkOne 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The Red Scare (part2)

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[–] DarkOne 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

i agree, but Trump is already changing geopolitics by take away China's greatest ally (Russia) and putting a lot of political pressure on them by recognizing Taiwan as a independent nation. he is basically starting to chip away at there pride and standing in the world for a better negotiating position and China has some serious finical troubles coming there way. they are scared of someone messing with the status quo and Trump is demonstrating just that; "do as i say or i will mess with your shit".

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[–] chickyrogue 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

we really shouldnt worry about china either

we should be focusing on fixing ourselves to function at some point more reasonably than fubar!

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[–] quantokitty 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

And yet there wasn't peep out of anyone when the media was fanning the flames of police shooting blacks and causing riots and burnings of communities. This based on FAKE news and propaganda because the stats never proved what the rhetoric was saying. And now? Try to find concise stats. You can't because they have these weird breakdowns that obscure the fact that whites by far have the greater percentage and probability of being shot. So we have a terrorist group springing up and blocking streets, mugging, and looting, but one false flag and that's it? As long as the shut down puts a gag order on MSN, the NYT, Huffington Post, and the usual suspects in the HRC camp, I won't have an objection. But you notice that they wanted to shut down WikiLeaks also when that was only telling the truth so what is it that they want?

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[–] Phishingteam 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The Pedo's are outing their own team. Thanks for posting, I will call everyone of my elected officials. I am anxious to know if they plan on helping the Pedos.

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[–] Phishingteam 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Bingo.

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[–] DarkOne 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Any chance we can get a list of who voted for the bill? (shot in the dark) we might be able to use it to cross reference the names with other leads, maybe something will stand out.

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[–] Mrs_Ogynist01 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

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[–] Phishingteam 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Great idea.

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[–] r3dtr1x 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

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[–] gosso920 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Devin Nunes

intelligence

Pick one.

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[–] lawfag123 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

My sides

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[–] anon123 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

We need to spread this to Breitbart, Drudge, TheBlaze, InfoWars, r/The_Donald, ect ASAP. Spread the word!

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[–] happy_snek 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The Blaze? That dumpster fire?

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[–] Jem777 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That is the point there is no clear evidence of Russia. That was Hillary and team trying to distract from the content of emails. Not just Democrats either Director Comey would not say it and another top intelligence said no way to give attribution. Leaks came from inside think about FBIanon. Now they are using "fake news" to censor alternative news because they don't want exposure. MSM is losing ratings which loses money everyone is connecting they are lying. NYT openly covers up blatant truth. Writes bogus stories on pizzagate. Their owner was managing the BBC when it covered up the U.K. Pedophile scandal with Jimmy Seville. The goverment democrat or republican should never be the ones deciding what is fake news. James Alefantis boyfriend DAVID Brock has his own alleged media correct the record specifically to spin stories for the Clinton's, Obama's and George Soros is involved in some organizations that do the same. Media Matters is also a propaganda arm of the Clinton's. Fake news Fake news. I am amazed at how different sites shut down this investigation with all this evidence or NYT would write front page articles on Trump based on hearsay 20 years ago with the person then being discredited. Call your Senators and Congressman

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