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Policy on linking dangerous research
1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities. See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
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[–] superesper 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago (edited ago)
While I agree that what OP suggests would be a good idea if only for organizing our ideas and helping us to present more convincing arguments to the public, I don't understand the mindset of the people looking into this issue who are somehow maintaining the illusion that law enforcement or the justice system is going to do anything about this, or that if they did, it would be for any other reason than to make an example of a few chosen scapegoats in order to protect the rest of the system. What you're learning about through pizzagate is the system of control that's operated on this planet for at least centuries if not millennia. It will not be brought down by the compliance-enforcement wing of that very system.
The most important thing you can do is continue to spread the information to everyone you know so that they can't put it back in the bottle.
[–] janedoe77 ago
I totally agree. I think however it is not a bad idea to take this OPEN SOURCE idea and use it to populist strengths and to creating the idea of citizen justice. Bureaucratic justice is an oxymoron. Open source convictions. Open source trials. Expand the jury idea. We need new fresh ideas and not recycling old patriarchal dead mechanics. Digital realities make this possible, but it is our courage and imaginations that can make it real, if we believe it is possible. Pizzagate may be the lynchpin to "another world is possible" as the left likes to say.
[–] justanotherone ago (edited ago)
The truth! Although it might be possible, it will require a massive push, the system is corrupt and made to be that way but as long as public pressure is strong enough and as long as there are some non-corrupted elements within the system it is POSSIBLE for it to work for us and more than just a few scapegoats. But this thing is going to have to be blown wide open to a huge degree to make them go after the whole "entity" and not just a few players. For that we need more than we currently have, especially since the media aren't going to do the job of getting this out there, it will need to be utterly EXPLOSIVE and beyond question. We need video proof of these crimes (but not anything that would be considered child porn) as that is the only thing I think that will be unstoppable. Otherwise we pretty much have to rely on the FBI and on the system to come through, but even then it is pretty doubtful that could lead to taking down the whole global criminal ring.
The only other option is for we the people to act on our own, to make new organizations that act, make our own government. I have been wondering if the people to creating globalism but in an effort ironically to fight it. We could try and create a grass-roots organization that creates a structure. We can't make new governments within a country so easily without trouble, but there is nothing stopping us from beating them to the punch in creating a sort of collectivist anti-elite organization! All government is made up, so let's make up our own one, and let's have this be it's first goal!
The ironic part here is that this information is not helping us unless it leads to these people being done away with, if it leads to anything less then it just disempowers and sickens and pollutes the public but they still continue on, we have to be determined that will not happen. As such I think we need to make sure video proof happens, and before that kind of thing becomes too meaninglessly easy to fake. Now is the time. But this means that we need to either hack/take the recordings they have, or we need to film them doing this stuff by secretly installing hidden cameras. Alas that is much easier said than done!