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[–] carmencita 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago 

ALEFANTIS: Well, we make everything from scratch. Other restaurants, even good restaurants, will, like, not roast their own peppers. You can just buy the roasted peppers in a can. Or you can buy garlic oil. Some products you can get, and they’re consistent and they’re easy. But I didn’t even know that existed actually until they said that. I was like, “What do you mean? There’s another way? You can just buy these things?” Because a lot of restaurants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in. WOW!!! You are so right. I don't know what to say. I have heard this go back and forth on here, but now I see it in print. Thanks for posting this.

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[–] frorge 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I definitely agree. What would be sufficient proof of there not being a basement?

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[–] bryoneill11 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What about if there are real tunnels. that changes everything

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[–] TheDude2 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

There's either a basement or he uses shitty canned sauce. Either way I wouldn't eat there.

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[–] PizzaAccount 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

All the stuff that goes on there and you won't eat it because of the sauce?! Monster!! /s

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[–] laura0714 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I found an article where he specifically states he stores the sauce in Buck's basement. I don't think there is an actual basement at CPP. Tunnels, secret area, maybe, but this article does say he's storing them in Bucks basement https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/san-marzanos-the-bible-of-tomatoes/2013/08/12/85485c1a-fa32-11e2-9bde-7ddaa186b751_story.html?utm_term=.9a6b86c0f921

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[–] VnVnV 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

hopefully not a Walnut Sauce

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[–] carmencita 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I have read reports that the food is pretty good, so I would not put it past him to be lying and forgetting he said it in the article. Maybe we will get definite proof.

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[–] Alsoljin 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So Alefantis is caught lying, and anyone can verify both statements, one written, one oral. Good. The rope is tightening

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[–] ScottKnight 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I've got written confirmation of him lying "They ignore basic truths," Alefantis tells BBC Trending. For instance, the conspiracy supposedly is run out of the restaurant's basement. "We don't even have a basement." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-38156985

"Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in" http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/

Proof the owner of Comet Ping Pong is making contradictory statements.

It's great to be better at giving news than the BBC

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's like that Australian journalist who was asking for tips earlier.

What can they do? He even said he doesn't have the time to really research anything himself. Do they even have the journalist's "nose" for a story anymore? That classic knack for lateral thinking and finding story angles? Do they have the necessary network of contacts to get police and other official records that a regular citizen may have difficulty obtaining, in order to make those big story-breaking paper-trails? There would have to be building permits somewhere with actual plans detailing the layout of the building and any additions to the structure, etc.

Journalists can now only talk secondhand about investigations, not actually engage in any meaningful way. At best they are the guys calling the game now, no longer actual players on the field.

Complete failure. In fact, Australian Journalist guy if you're reading this, you'd probably be less in danger of getting yourself murdered if you framed the story of Pizzagate as essentially being about the death of journalism. That regular (if incredibly autistic) citizens have had to take on the mantle of the classic idea of the "journalist class" or "4th Estate", by becoming a sort of crowd-sourced "investigative cloud" (the term "The 5th Estate" has already been coined of course, but my point is specifically about the death of mainstream journalism and it's role in our society).

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[–] 35073l2iC_-v3v- 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

DC has an extensive underground network.

http://untappedcities.com/2014/07/25/the-underground-city-beneath-the-u-s-capitol-and-library-of-congress/

http://www.dupontunderground.org/index.php/about/

http://jalopnik.com/the-secret-underground-world-of-washington-d-c-1679984312

You'll like #3 specifically for the following excerpt,

"Ever wondered what's below Dupont Circle? The remains of a Pizza Express, for starters. Plus 75,000 square feet of solid silence.

To get rid of its post-war congestion,Washington D.C. moved the traffic of Connecticut Avenue below the surface in 1949, including streetcars, for which they constructed two stations connected by 4,000 feet of tunnels made of thick reinforced concrete."

I'm sure everyone already knows what street Comet Ping Pong is on...

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[–] 35073l2iC_-v3v- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I tried to find Alefantis' actual age, but I can't.

Judging from pictures I put him as 30's, late 30's at most. Since Pizza Express was an underground spot in the early 90's, only shutting down in 1996, it's quite possible (even likely) that Alefantis went there as a teenager. Podesta would have been in DC during those years as well and quite possibly where a hungry, boy-loving politician may have met his "Antinous" and groomed him into who he is today.

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[–] YouaremeandIamyou 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

very significant I feel.

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[–] quantokitty 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What do you mean? Could you give a link to a picture?

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[–] Scoundrel 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

LOL I thought that as well.

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[–] bryoneill11 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think The Tall Man movie was trying to tell us something about this tunnels

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[–] YouaremeandIamyou 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

the killroom in the instagram photos reminds me of some of the tunnels in the photos on these articles under dc. It appears to have a large bloodstain on the concrete floor. I noticed the same kind of concrete floor in the dc photos, as well as the ventilation and pipes on the ceiling.

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[–] Blacksmith21 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The "kill room" is actually a walk-in freezer. A refrigerated room restaurants use to store perishable goods.

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[–] YouaremeandIamyou 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

wow. you are onto something here. I must look this up.

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[–] pizzathrowaway 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It seems possible that the basement where he stores extra sauce is not on site. There is definitely no basement there.

I'm not sure what photo in the restaurant book you think is in a basement? They all look like the front room area, plus one of the kitchen/bar and one of the bathroom. There's one photo that I can't really tell what it is.

Politics & Prose is not in the same building, though it is in the same complex, a few doors down. The whole strip of stores is kind of on a hill, so the ground level exit from Comet out back is on the same level as the **basement **exit from Politics & Prose, they both exit to the parking lot. See: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Comet+Ping+Pong/@38.9554688,-77.0701022,3a,75y,72.27h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0-tiSgOn-MJLr6hd2YBmyg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0-tiSgOn-MJLr6hd2YBmyg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D67.65328%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b7c9b98f61ad27:0x81a8bf734dd1c58f!8m2!3d38.9559497!4d-77.0699666!6m1!1e1

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[–] quantokitty 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

It's just amazing that when Alefantis says that they store the tomatoes in the basement, someone pops up disagrees with that. HTH do you know? And the OP is right about the real estate listing. I've gone on four different sites and plunked in that address. The number of stories is: TWO. So perhaps the basement is hidden from you. You know, like the bathrooms are hidden behind secret panels.

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[–] SIMONBARROW 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The statement Alefantis made first about the basement is going to be the more reliable statement, because it was made before he knew that it would matter one day whether or not Comet had a basement. The alternative is to assume that Alefantis is a compulsive liar who wanted to impress by saying that they make their own sauce once a year and store it for use all year round. A lie now (to cover up Pizzagate) seems much more likely than a lie then (to impress a food reviewer).

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[–] pizzathrowaway 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

the bathrooms aren't hidden behind secret panels, they just have confusing doors.

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[–] SecureYourSeats 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I would love to take a closer look at the south wall in that "children's party room". I would think the door to the basement (if there was one) would have to be on that wall. Someone mentioned that the place has hidden doors (plural) yet all we've observed are the hidden bathrooms, if that's all why didn't they just say "hidden bathroom doors". I was very suspicious of how James seemed to hurry the camera guy out of that children's room (IE. by walking rapidly out the door himself willing the camera guy to follow him and Alefantis didn't stop walking until the camera guy was out of the room, then he paused as if ready to talk.

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[–] HomeboyChris [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

If theres another basement, i want to know about that one too

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[–] cyks 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Now there are two basements if you ask me.

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[–] ThorTheWonderful 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

We have similar layouts in my city. Building ranging from single above ground level to 5. But they were all built over 100 years ago and every one of them has underground tunnels and some form of basement.

The reason for this was the boiler tunnels for municipal heating. These tunnels can and usually are large enough to drive a truck down them but used to be littered with boiler pipes and other services.

Today, in some of the larger buildings, there are ally's and stairs and all sorts of weird access way deep inside these buildings almost like entering into an old city. These give access to the backs of stores and sometimes low rent office spaces or strange boutiques. They give a very cool view of the internal construction of these old building too and sometimes you can still see remnants of an old world with boardwalks and architecture not seen on the exterior facade.

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[–] HomeboyChris [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Third image down on the right

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[–] pizzathrowaway 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

oh, yeah, that's the one that I can't tell what it is. If it's a basement it's got a REALLY unusually tall ceiling, judging from that ladder.

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[–] angular_planes 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

but I thought that when he said there's no basement that meant there was no basement... Thanks infinitely, good find

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[–] TheBasementClue 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

The Basement Clue has been really on mind.

You know the expression "Doth protest too much."?

What bothers me is that the basement talking point has been a featured talking point in each interview that he has done.

The NPR interview. The one named above. The TV interview that he did early on.

There is something about the tone of his voice when he says it. He tries to pass off the whole matter as absurd because "we don't even have a basement", but there is something in his tone of voice that is so flippant and hollow that it stood out to my spirit the first time he said it.

This basement issue is significant and needs to be proven/disproven once and for all.

I'm glad OP is focused on this.

Please find his other interviews if you can.

This is a throwaway.

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[–] llm2016 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Check the "she's my god-daughter" statement too (the girl with her hands taped on the table). I feel highly suspicious that she would ever be seen again.

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[–] trump4beastiality 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Witch Hunts are always this way, no way you can win. Good news is that witch-hunts always boomer-rang back on the assholes that begat them. Kill-Room & basement have always been part of the original plant of insane photos on instagram, this thing was always a 4chan mind-fuck

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[–] GoldMoose16 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Fox news this past Sunday 11/27. Not him speaking directly but Howie Kurtz quoting him. Shitty video, sorry, not mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XigUaUhFeDg

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[–] quantokitty 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

There was someone on here talking about going back to governmental surveying records. He said he'd post the results. I'm hoping he does, in a separate thread so it doesn't get lost because if he does find proof, it'll be major!!!

Nice catch! Thanks for posting.

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[–] sometimessage 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I wonder if the tax acessor's records are available, we might find some clues there.

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[–] quantokitty 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I have an idea how we can find out. Maybe I'll do some sleuthing ...

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[–] anon123 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

BOOM! Caught lying red handed. Nice work OP.

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[–] HomeboyChris [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Thanks this is something I've been working on for a while.

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[–] Stormtrooperx52 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

https://i.sli.mg/HqeyxT.png 2 sites list the property as having 2 stories/ floors. Alefantis better provide proof of a 2nd floor. Another thing that caught my attention is the fact that the place was purchased with a grant....A fucking grant to open a pizza place...for 1.8 Million? 1.8 Million for what? Everything about this place wreaks of something foul. If you can get a grant to open a pizza shop for 1.8 Million then everyone and their Momma would own one. We need Alefantis to talk more often! I love stupid criminals.

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[–] thetruthisout 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The back room at comet is down a few stairs, i suspect this would constitute another story, can be seen in the youtube vids where the guy interviews him and walks around! not a storage area tho, for kids 'parties'

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[–] GoldMoose16 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

A Grant Deed has nothing to do with "grant money" being used. It is a type of deed and is a common real estate term.

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[–] MadMonkey 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Any source on the claim that a grant was used? Thanks

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[–] GoldMoose16 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Just replied to Stormtrooperx52 about "Grant" so this doesn't stray off. A Grant Deed has nothing to do with "grant money" being used. It is a type of deed and is a common real estate term.

What you really want to find here is who the mortgage holder is. If it was a cash deal, well then there's a whole new rabbit hole.

Here you go https://countyfusion4.propertyinfo.com/countyweb/login.do

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[–] Stormtrooperx52 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

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