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[–] Nicefind 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Isn't that already in place? I can't downvote until I reach 100. 87 now.

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

but you can get that 100 from posting anywhere in voat. The sub specific setting would mean you'd have to get at least x from this sub

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[–] sleepingbeautycan 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

I guess that would work. They would have to pretend to be one of us for a while before they could show their true colours.

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[–] lockherup 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Give it time... most of the pizzagate subscribers are just a week old. As these members begin to hit their 100ccp, the community will be able to downvote the shills into oblivion, and the mods will have to do less work. If you raise the ccp threshold then you will just extend the time it takes for this to happen. Keep in mind that shills can be downvoted and lose their ccp once they are exposed.

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[–] Nicefind 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ah thanks

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[–] 1337hackagirl 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Terrible idea. Researchers who are risking there lifes with 1 time drops are at major risk. Shills are heavily funded and can buy voat accounts with many points off sites like fiverr.

( read this wrong, thought you meant to post )

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[–] dindonufin 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

I haven't had the ability to downvoat (yet), so I've been reporting them as spam instead.

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[–] sleepingbeautycan 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I've been pretty frickin active and I am holding at 59 CCP. I don't actively try and make it go up I thought it would go up naturally. I would love to downvoat some posts. I am going to try the spam link.

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[–] AnonCanuck 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I dont think its a good idea. People are calling out the shills and most people are getting the idea of what a post should be like. I wouldnt

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[–] Konran 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Is it really that bad though?

I have been down-voating shills and trolls that I perceive yet I have contributed very little in the way of comments or submissions. Do you want to lose Voaters like me?

I remained silent about the Eddit-like modding that was brought to this sub. Even though it goes against Voat's general principles I thought it would be good to maintain a form of clarity with more troll/shill/shitposts being removed and the more pertinent posts remaining.

This new minimum CCP idea is different. This means we will limit any new information sources and create more of a clique-type subverse. I'm not sure at all, but if it had to be done I would agree with u/VictorSteinerDavion and keep it at 5 CCP needed to post. Any serious shills would then be more obvious and easier to spot and could then be dealt with by the numerous mods here.

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[–] RainingPiss 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I live off of new for pizzagate now

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[–] Konran 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah, that's great advice.

I always try to visit 'new' and help seperate the wheat from the chaff.

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[–] 1337hackagirl 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Shills are heavily funded and can buy accounts. You are putting researchers at risk who need to protect their anonymity.

( edit: ( read this wrong, thought you meant to post ) )

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

any sub with a subverse ccp minimum is a sub not bothering going to.

TLDR: fuck that shit. stay open and public.

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[–] RainingPiss 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This^^^^

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

how does a ccp min mean its not open and public

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

it still tells you doesn't it?

that ccp minimum removes the sub from v/all....

pizzagate need be in peoples' faces.

one of the weapons used against the population to keep the blackmail child rape system in place (as a system for sociopaths to trust each other and subjugate the weak)

is that it's so horrendous that we won't talk about it.

it needs to be front and center, and if not on voat then where??

pizzagate up front and public,

let all the shilling be downvoated but all the speech remain for all to see.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

what would be more in the moment would be to create

a clintongate

so both efforts could focus on their respective tasks.

i mean yes, they're linked

but in terms of prosecution i think likely successful jail terms will come from separate lines of inquiry, thus investigations should be focused properly. a team for each, as it were. even just getting clinton on RICO would be fucking fantastic at this point. the pizza ring.. you have to understand, touches all corners of the globe, from the trillionaires down to the sex slaves and destitute... this is like... taking down the clintons is taking an apple off the tree....taking down the elite pedo ring is like taking down a nation of apple orchards...

i don't say this because of an issue... i don't see clintongate messing up pizzagate nor vice versa... i DO see a LACK of a clintongate! and there are so many new fucking people here i think there's plenty of elbow grease to go around....

thoughts on a clintongate?

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[–] Phobos_Mothership 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I personally think this is a bad idea, and this coming from someone who has most of his CCP from /v/pizzagate and /v/conspiracy.

If we could do it and remain on the front page, I'd say go for it, but it seems to be like 'censoring shills at the expense of self-censorship' you know?

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[–] IronTeacup246 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think setting a minimum CCP obtained in the sub is a good idea. We don't necessarily need to be on the front page of Voat. The extra publicity is nice, but preventing shills and bots from downvoting so easily is worth it imo.

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[–] rivercontrol 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Do it!

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[–] 1337hackagirl 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

No please think. Shills can buy accounts easily online. Researchers need their anonymity protected. Some of the best posts on here and reddit were 1 time drops. This would be a win for shills and terrible for researchers risking their lives. Think it through.

( edit: ( read this wrong, thought you meant to post ) )

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