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[–] pizzaparallel ago
I agree with your first paragraph but I don't think that something's resemblance to something else has to be a bad thing. The symbol was derived from a heart. The fact that pedophiles created a new symbol from a heart doesn't mean that that's the only meaning a similar symbol can have.
https://i.sli.mg/7EBxsX.png
Look, with a quick browse on google maps, I found a symbol in Japan that looks JUST like the infamous nazi symbol. Not a loose match but JUST like it. (Because of similar origins)
Does this mean that the Buddhist Temple is actually a hub for Nazi's or that they support nazism in general? No! It doesn't mean that in this context at all.
[–] existentialenso ago (edited ago)
I'm not saying it necessarily means anything, just that it isn't something that I think is reasonable to be so quick to dismiss, like the author of these articles is. It should at least raise a slight bit of suspicion, even if it truly is benign.
The swastika's origins as a Sanskrit symbol isn't really a fair comparison since the other use is also very well known. Anyone who knows anything at all about Eastern religions isn't going to think Nazi when they see it in that context.
[–] pizzaparallel ago
Ok, fair enough. I just don't think heart symbols should immediately be presumed to be linked with pedophiles.
Of course Japanese people don't think the symbol means something related to Nazis. It has been used as a symbol of good health and well-being for a long time. I would argue that the swastika's origins as a Sanskrit symbol are not so well known because despite this, there is actually talk about changing the symbol on maps because so many foreigners think it's the Nazi symbol. The perceived similarity to the infamous symbol doesn't make Japanese temples symbols of Nazi support any more than hearts on stuffed animals indicate support of pedophilia.