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[–] pizzaparallel 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I don't get the same impression at all. I think that if anything she gives a more fact-based approach to analyzing perceived risks. I honestly find it rather refreshing because nearly every other parenting thing seems to be insisting on more and more and more control over every aspect of their child's life under the guise of "reasonable caution". There's nothing wrong with letting your child play with a toy that has a heart on it simply because it looks similar to pedophilia symbol. You're not making your child safer by taking that toy away.
The toy argument is over-the-top. Similar symbols may be used among pedophiles but that doesn't mean that the usage in every other context must mean the same thing. Think about basic hand gestures. In the US and many places, the rocker hand symbol (goat horns) is thought to mean something like "rock on". In other places it's a gesture (generally done behind a person's back) to mean that his wife is cheating on him and he's too stupid to know it. In rock concerts where there are hundreds of fans making this symbol, nobody ASSUMES that all these people intend it in the 2nd way. No one can claim the ONLY true meaning of a symbol. Context is important.
He's not a convicted pedophile. Sex offender is a catch-all category for a variety of sex crimes. While he was a doctor they said that patients reported that he was touching them sexually while a nurse was present. I'm not saying this is ok. However, this is a far cry from being a convicted child molester.
I don't think she's defending pedophiles and pedophilia at all. I think she's just trying to balance out the hysteria reported in the media with facts so that parents can get a better idea of how much of a risk something really is to their child. People can still disagree and take their own precautions but I see nothing wrong with putting information out there so that parents are more informed to make that decision.