[–] [deleted] 3 points 22 points (+25|-3) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] Canarycbradio 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I'm falsely accused, with stigma and do not appreciate it. Yet, at same time, I'm looking to work with a more select and experienced group, and could care less if ones do not like me. In fact, ones being so disrespectful, are more surely not legit, nor strategize very well. In fact, I'd call it libel and slander and bullying. And, the history of rings and corruption, make it quite clear that any ways of going about solve, stop, protect ones does not work. In fact, ones even would say ones to go to church or three letters; as history has clearly showed that is not options and hence why all going on and all related corruptions. So, hmmm..and who is to judge ones in how they write? The rings and corruptions, clearly use their codes and linguistics. Parrallel that to two football.teams. ones use tools, and the other does not as keeps losing for decades. If I am involved in any unwanted chess by ones in.power, my goal.is to win and not repeat mistakes that do nothing but cause irreversible harm. So whatever, kids my grits, bless you and Shazam amen.

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[–] Seexybeast6969 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Kingkongwaswrongwaswrong

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[–] CrenschIsCensoring 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

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[–] DarkOne 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

your feud with @kingkongwaswrong is going nowhere. Counter his post by laying out a list of good investigators that are repeatedly finding solid information and invaluable leads. it is a net positive for everyone involved and it will prove you'r case.

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago 

this would actually be amazing

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[–] BiasedAsFuck 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The mods are fucking shills. Shills don't hide in the shadows, they pose as your allies and misdirect you.

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[–] eyes-wide-shut 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

We need to avoid the witch hunt. It's just a distraction. Down vote shills, upvote content.

Back to work!

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[–] mnoro 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I saw like 4 threads yesterday implying OP was a shill.

Add this name: kingkongwaswrong

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[–] bernitdown 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Right? The only mod removing posts and nobody knows who he is?!

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[–] rationalconspiracist 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

This never ends well. Counter the message, don't attack the messenger. Even if you know they're a shill, it's just a losing strategy. They can simply change accounts if you out them and the only thing wasted was your time, but if you debunk their narrative then what? This simply leads to the community turning in on itself, personal attacks, etc instead of focusing on actual debate.

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[–] Canarycbradio 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

And harming ones, missing leads, not encouraging victims and sources to come forward; bullying, libel, slander. Not winning g again the odds or learning g from.past multiple, multiple examples that noone has ever stopped this and too many were harmed further by ego, not wisdom and using outcome and strategy. Sad, to say the least.

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 5 points -1 points (+4|-5) ago 

you might be right, but let's see how it goes.

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[–] rationalconspiracist 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

On a conspiracy site I frequented, when I first started out I did what you're doing. I outed a few prominent shills. Bunch of people covered for them, many more got tired of hearing about it. In the end, it simply hurt my reputation and when I finally proved they were shill accounts, they promptly abandoned them and made new accounts. Lots of time wasted, nothing accomplished, and their narrative still dominated. I think they actually want you to engage them on a personal level, because they have no personal stake in anything. The only way they can lose is through logical debate.

I also noticed something else that you'll want to watch out for. The current thinking in how to "deradicalize" someone or change their point of view, is that you never disagree with them. Disagreeing with someone further radicalizes and alienates them. To change someone's mind, you actually agree with them, but in a way that's so over the top it almost satirizes their point of view. This causes the person to actually take a step back and re-evaluate their own views in response. Wouldn't want to become one of those nuts right?

In my opinion, shills use this tactic to change people's minds. They're more effective when they agree with you in a mocking, over-the-top manner than when they argue with you.

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[–] Canarycbradio 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Whatever.

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[–] Galvarian 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

All one needs to do to get on this list is complain about kingkongwaswrong.

[–] [deleted] 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

[Deleted]

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[–] Canarycbradio 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Often the underdogs are most legit and best intents. Is this evil highschool, popular? Whose going to be king and queen?

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[–] Canarycbradio 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Or have more experience in corruption. Cute.

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[–] grlldcheese 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Nope. Your faggotry is obvious and self evident.

If you were better at it you wouldn't be on the list.

[–] [deleted] 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

[Deleted]

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[–] Phobos_Mothership 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

zinn88 is worse than a shill. Has posted clickbaity titles that link to child porn at least twice. Suggest banning.

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

if hes linking to childporn knowingly more than once Id suggest you ban him. As a mod you can do this

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[–] lectorleoni 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

"Shills like to hide in the shadows."

The premise of this post is weak. It is only equivocally true; shills need to hide the fact that they are shills, but they also need to draw attention to themselves in order to derail the discussion. Compiling a blacklist on your own pretended authority without any explanation as to why the names on it belong there is what the bad guys do. It's either incompetence or malice. But when in doubt, the safer assumption is the worse.

The post itself employs several shill tactics. Let it be known, I'm only commenting because the author of the post is the moderator of the subverse; ordinarily, the appropriate thing to do with shills is to ignore them.

Let the reader peruse the Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies and judge for himself what this is: http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

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[–] Phobos_Mothership 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Bentastixc has been posting very questionable content, latest submission (before deletion) was one of those 'dubiously access the public records of any person with a name and address' websites, like he was encouraging doxxing in order to discredit us.

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[–] Sui_Juris 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Point him out for it, downvote, mark as spam. Rinse, repeat.

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