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[–] Spuddlebuns 23 points 60 points (+83|-23) ago 

You point this out to stir shit, stop deluding yourself. FIRST off, nothing has been "deleted." It has been REMOVED from this subverse for being NOT SPECIFICALLY RELATED to #pizzagate. The BULLSHIT is STILL on VOAT. Look to your right, fucktard. See the sidebar? Scroll down a bit until you see:

MODERATION LOGS Removed submissions Removed comments Banned users

At the bottom of the sidebar. CLICK on the "REMOVED SUBMISSIONS," or the "REMOVED COMMENTS," and GUESS WHAT? ALL the stupid, inane, irrelevant and unrelated stupid that was removed is THERE! Wow...so much for the "censorship" whine, eh?

The bullshit is NOT deleted. If it were, you couldn't still access it, now could you? Gee...hurts to not succeed in being victim, huh? This subverse is also NOT a popularity contest. Upvotes and downvotes are as irrelevant here as posts tying every pizza joint in the world to a hidden pedophila ring because they have the word 'pizza' in their name.

Get over yourself, snowflake. There is no "qualification test" to create a subverse.

Just because THIS subverse does not indulge in stupidity, vagueness, and tangential possible connections does not mean you are without hope.

Go to /v/pizzagateunedited. There you can wallow in all the bullshit you like, and most likely whine some more about this subverse while you do so. Enjoy.

The only "longetivity of the investigation" you are providing for the sake of, is the stench of bullshit as you whine about censorship that is not happening. Go read the removed posts. Go to one of the "unedited" pizzagate discussions. Here, your whine is off topic, unrelated, and irrelevant to the investigation.

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[–] PizzaAccount 12 points 61 points (+73|-12) ago 

Is there a reason for the extremely hostile tone? I agree that there is no evidence of censorship, but his post didn't seem insulting or aggressive, so I don't understand why you immediately starting calling names like that. I just feel you could have conveyed 100% of your message in a much more polite way.

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[–] Spuddlebuns 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

To YOU, I apologize. But in the 'grand scheme' of things, these people 1. Post stupid shit that impedes the discussion, and then 2. Compound their obfuscation by posting MORE stupid shit to bitch about their original irrelevant shit being removed from this subverse.

And if you take the time to read all the whining and demanding and lame-ass attempts to somehow validate bullshit as gold, along with all the insults being hurled about "shills," and "reddit this or reddit that," as they try to base one's worth in posting to one's time here, you will start to possibly understand why I put on my asshole hat, pick up my bullshit detector bat, and come out swingin'.

VOAT is unlike many places you find on the web. Here they cry mightily about 'freedom of speech,' and although they cannot comprehend the concept of "time and place," they sure as hell will scream from the rooftops if they post something that DOES NOT BELONG, and is subsequently MOVED from this subverse...

Now mind you, we are not saying deleted. REMOVED. The shit is ALL still accessible. But these poor snowflakes can't stand the thought that their precious contribution might not pass muster, and be removed.

I DO agree, I could convey a percentage (100%? I'll settle for 40-60) in a much more polite way. And in different circumstances, on different web platforms, I have and do. But this is VOAT, and if you (or ANYONE) will simply take the 10-15 seconds' effort to READ and HEED the PLAINLY worded RULES FOR SUBMISSIONS, as well as the purpose for this subverses, you will (or should, at least) be able to understand that this subverse is NOT for any and every pedo-oriented thing people find on the web.

Things NOT SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO #pizzagate are removed. No ifs, no ands, no buts. Yet, we see stupid posts about everything showing up, which is to be expected, as there are real "shills" here, in number, whose entire purpose is to discredit this investigation and/or discredit this subverse in order to better portray the #pizzagate investigation as a bunch of tin-foil hat loonies (see the NYT article if you doubt the veracity of #pizzagate being dismissed as a hoax). I learned to read in 1st Grade. Giving some leeway for economic-socio differences, I would STILL expect anyone over the age of 10 to be able to read and comprehend what the words "SPECIFICALLY RELATED" mean...

But sadly, that does not seem to be the case. So, shit gets removed. And the crybabies rise up to decry a simple enforcement of simple rules. And to be truthfully honest, as much as I enjoy kicking the sensitive little snowflakes in their hoo-has (because the louder they whine, the more they show themselves to be a bunch of pussies), I truly would rather be working on the sorting, collating, and validating of the mountain of ACTUAL #pizzagate evidence, not wading through bullshit videos, theories, and "maybe this is something" posts that are not remotely connected to #pizzagate beyond the pedo-oriented nature. And SOME of the pseudo-witch hunts being posted about a ping pong club in California (the shadow of the photographer was "threatening," and a baby was placed on a table with GASP! Triangle legs!!!) is beyond laughable, were it not cluttering up the efforts to honestly gather SPECIFIC information related to what we currently know about #pizzagate. I know most people are truly not that dense. If they were, they would never be able to walk out the front door without assistance. So, I have to assume that they are either shilling to discredit/misdirect the investigation, or they refuse to accept that the simple rules of this subverse do not apply to THEM. Both are equally probable, but I personally tend to lean towards the latter explanation.

And I'm sorry, but I have little to no tolerance for those who think the rules apply to everyone but them. Especially when the rules are so clearly posted, in such simple language, that anyone should be able to follow them.

So yeah, I let them "push my buttons," and yeah, I ENJOY going off on them. I've tried MANY times in the past 24 hours to "gently" tell these fools that they are NOT on-topic, and their posts, no matter HOW "interesting" or "compelling" the content do not belong in here if they are not SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO #pizzagate. But they refuse to rationally back up and see the simple truth and honesty. So at that point, niceties be damned. If you want to behave like a dumb fuck, I'mma treat you like a dumbfuck. By and large, many of the loudest of the whiners have even shorter times here than I do, but I do not base my replies upon how long anyone has been here. It is irrelevant. Just as I am irrelevant, and you are irrelevant, and ANY and ALL of us are irrelevant. STAY FOCUSED. The people posting the bullshit about Reddit, and Shills, and unrelated links to beyond tenuous links to the investigation are just noise. And I love a good party, so I enjoy playing with the noise-makers. Meantime, the mods remove all unnecessary and unneeded noise from the subverse, and the true discussion rolls on.

You can only be polite to stupid and stubborn people up to a point. Once it shows that they are deliberately choosing to not play by the rules you, me, and the rest of us play by, they no longer deserve any politeness in my book. But that's just me...

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[–] ratsmack 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Sometimes the tone needs to be stepped up a notch or two... I think his comment reflects many people thought on all of this.

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[–] Echo_of_Savages 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

It is fucking weird how he is literally the only mod deleted submissions.

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[–] Millennial_Falcon 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I don't think that's true. It was true early on, because he created this sub and was the only mod for a while. He himself was resistant to active moderation at first, but he quickly came to see the light. All the deleted submissions were deleted for a good reason. They are basically distractions that are clogging up the sub and causing us to have to sift through BS to find worthwhile posts.

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[–] anonentity 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I want to know where this kid is. I fear for the little idiots safety.https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ping+pong+pizza&view=detail&mid=C641CF38BB591AC8D658C641CF38BB591AC8D658&FORM=VIRE

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[–] pizzapartywithkids 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I've removed several threads. I don't like doing it and I always er on the side of leaving a post. But having been a mod at the former subreddit, things get out of hand quickly and its best to become consistent. Sometimes the noise can be extremely disruptive to threads with actual evidence because more people are likely to contribute to those - eg. semi-lurkers who don't wish to participate in evidence finding and have little to add to the threads with evidence, but have a vested interest in the forum and are willing to discuss such topics.

So its a catch 22. We can try to limit the noise and meta discussions so that the important information reaches the front to help further the overarching goal of this forum, or we can stand back and avoid censorship entirely, but likely drown out the much smaller threads discussing evidence.

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[–] degenerate7 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Fuck you get your shit reddit fallacies outta here

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[–] Spuddlebuns 6 points -2 points (+4|-6) ago 

Ooh, took you a LONG time to come up with that one, didn't it? Call a waahmbulance, fuckface. I'm here, and ain't one fucking thing YOU can do about it. Except cry. Some more.... Poor widdle snowflake.

Take it to /v/pizzagateunedited no one here gives a flying fuck how unhappy you are. Well, it provides me with LULZ, but that's about all the fuck I give it.

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[–] DentHouper 7 points 5 points (+12|-7) ago 

This.

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[–] Crensch 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

I'm not trying to cause division here, but my posts along with many others are being deleted.

The only posts I've seen in the modlog, (and I HAVE looked) are shit-tier forum sliding or other subversion types. Follow the damn rules.

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[–] PizzaAccount 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

Could you provide links to some of this? You were asked for them elsewhere in this thread and I haven't seen anything provided as evidence.

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[–] 6960467 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

If they are deleted but not in the modlog, they were deleted by the OP of that post.

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[–] CaptnMeowMix 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago  (edited ago)

If "subversion" and "sliding" posts were objective and quantitatively defined, this would be a lot easier to do. Unfortunately they're not, so it's all to easy to fall into a slippery slope with them.

Complaining about deletions and calling it "censorship" when reddit admins do it, then turning around and suggesting it's okay when WE do it, doesn't exactly bode well for the future of this effort here, regardless of what's being filtered.

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[–] Crensch 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If the sub was created to be a subverse for an investigation, then almost by definition, shitposts, clutter, subversion and sliting are detrimental to the entire subverse.

Yes, it's not objective or quantitatively defined, but I'll bet money that if you have an obscure post and in the first comment describe how it's linked, it won't go anywhere.

Any other strategy for a sub like this is a losing one. Period.

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[–] Crensch 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Rules. Sidebar.

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[–] Nicefind 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

there's maybe one or to be generous two in there that were questionable deletions, imo. Overall, good job @kingkongwaswrong

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[–] Le_Squish 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

Go fuck yourself you whinny shit. Voat had moderation logs and everyone can see what irrelevant shit (like this) that is being posted.

No one cares you used to be a mod on Reddit. You fucks came in and started content sliding so mod started nuking that shit.

It has been requested that you guys post evidence and investigation leads not feefees and unverifiable conspiracies.

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[–] Le_Squish 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

Please show example of mod deleting something he disagrees with. Burden of proof is on you and moderation logs are public.

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[–] HoocOtt 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

such as the "jewish conspiracy" material

No

It all stays.

If you don't like it then downvoat it.

This ain't fucking reddit.

We actually believe in free speech here.

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[–] EllenPaosEgo 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Reddit has censorous faggot mods, and Voat has one right now too. It is not all staying, check the public modlogs on the side. I completely agree, the community should be in control. Mods are supposed to only be janitors, not rulers.

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[–] veritas_e_lux 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

Except obviously they don't believe in free speech here, hence the large number of CENSORED (aka "deleted" aka BANISHED TO "Removed Submissions") threads.

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[–] Millennial_Falcon 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

We all believe in free speech, but the sensible majority on this sub also believe we need irrelevant, crazy, and troll posts to be removed in order for this sub to be effective in its mission. Voting alone is not an effective way to deal with that problem, because we have to sift through new posts to vote on them, and sifting through shitposts leaves little time to actually read, consider, discuss, and investigate new leads in the good posts, not to mention that a lot of us can't upvote posts yet.

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[–] KosherPizza 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

In laymen terms, what is Pizzagate? An investigation into a group of Satanic ruling elite that are kiidnapping, raping, torturing and killing children?

Alright.

So who are the ruling class elites? They are Zionist Jews. Here is a list of everything they control.

https://whitewraithe.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/there-is-no-doubt-jews-control-everything-in-america/?wref=tp

These are the ruling class elites and they openly admit it.

Here is an article written by Jew David Brooks who's the top political analyst for the New York Times where he fully admits that Jews control America. This article was published in the New York Times and it was written by a Jew. These aren't my words.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/books/review/the-chosen-getting-in.html

Now there is obviously a ton more evidence than this, but I've shown what they control and how they themselves say they control society.

Okay, so we've established that the ruling elites are Zionist Jews.

So what is Satanism? Satanism is a wing of Judaism. Judaism is the mother of all Abrahamic religions. That means Judaism is what Islam and Christianity are based on. The whole concept of Satan is a Jewish concept. Satanism is Judaism and many of these Satanic occultic rituals taking place are in the Talmud. The Talmud a Jewish holy book. It's what Rabbis study. Pizzagate is nothing new, it's what known as Jewish Blood Libel and there are numerous documented cases of this taking place all throughout history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel

So we've established that the ruling class elites are Zionist Jews.

We've established that Satanism is a wing of Judaism.

We've established that Jews have a history of conducting Pizzagate style rituals all throughout history.

We've established that Pizzagate style occultism is part of the Talmud.

Now let's look at some of the key players involved in these pedophile rings.

Epstein - Jew Saville - Jew Polanski - Jew

Corey Feldman and the those involved in the Hollywood scandals - Jews

I'm not an expert on Jewish pedophiles either,these are just the names that come to mind. I'm actually going to make a complete list that way you can all see how they're mostly all Jewish. Don't forget, Jews are only 2% of the population. It's not antisemitism to notice how Jews are overrepresented by something like 300%.

Jewish organized crime was just busted for operating international pedophile rings.

http://henrymakow.com/2014/01/Jews-dominate-sweep-of-pedophiles%20.html

There was also a cult of communist Jews that abducted children in the 80s in Florida called The Finders.

As you can see they were mostly all Jews.

https://voat.co/v/Amalek101/1232436

Zionist Talmudic Jews ( the Jewish mafia) are engaged in the religious sacrifice of children. It is part of their religion. It's all right in the Talmud and the Talmud is what Rabbis study.

Listen, these are only a handful of countless examples. I don't want to write a TLDR wall of text that most people wouldn't be able to make it through,nor did I want to overwhelm the reader with too much information, but just know that what I've shown you isn't even 1 percent of the evidence.

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[–] GuyRAWR 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm really not on the blame the Jews bandwagon, but rational posts like the one above, do warrant discussion. I would argue that the majority of people that practice Judaism are unaware of strict Talmudic sects. There has always been a very small subset of Jewish people at the top that are involved in this type of stuff, of that small subset I would say half are true believers and the other half use the religion as a front.

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[–] molehairz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

shills are trying their hardest to break this discussion apart any way they can. you can tell they're getting desperate

just keep posting the facts

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[–] Pllatinum 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

What amazing discussion pieces of yours have been deleted? Present them here.

It sounds like you're just freaking out for the sake of freaking out.

I sifted through what kong deleted, and it's a bunch of stupid shit from 14 year old-sounded people or it's a bunch of anti-jew crap (which only seemed to be related to pizzagate when it migrated to voat I may add).

Settle down.

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[–] Azzipdoe 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Just because somebody speaks something about Jews, something that's 100% true btw, doesn't mean it's antisemitic. Fucking Christ you people are garbage. We came here for complete freedom to post whatever without worrying about your safe spaces.

Can somebody point me in the direction of a different website with a pizzagate sub. Fuck Voat. Fuck Reddit.

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[–] molehairz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

you guys are getting so desperate, its pathetic what length you guys are going to protect pedophilia..

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[–] HarveyKlinger 5 points 7 points (+12|-5) ago 

Hmmmm... if you were a mod, then you would understand about following the subverse rules. This is NOT the place to complain about how the website/subverse is run.

Here, let me help you in case you haven't seen them before:

/V/PIZZAGATE RULES

Submission Rules

  • Do not link to CP
  • Posts not about PIZZAGATE specifically will be removed.
  • Unfounded, outlandish connections will be removed.
  • EVERY new claim needs a valid, clear source and an explanation as to why it's relevant
  • While some hypothesis and guesses are good to have, things about races, religions, (besides possibly satanic stuff,) and other unfounded or non-useful generalizations are not relevant to this investigation.

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[–] eBev 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm taking notes. I sure don't want to tick some of you guys off!! This Reddit refugee looooves goats--especially fainting goats from voats! I swear I do!!

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[–] HarveyKlinger 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

I saw that and I get it. My issue isn't against you in the slightest, it's that Pizzagate is now being overwhelmed with posts that are complaining about how the place is run and not about Pizzagate specifically.

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[–] Gumpgump 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Respect to you and I do not know the facts but I PMed him and when he did not get back, I EXPECTED that! This guy must be run off his feet! If he is who he says he is then he HAS to be understood - he has RESEARCH to do as well as modding. Maybe he's working and has a family to feed, too? As I see it, the best thing to do is support him and run with the info on your own: there are plenty of Pizzagate threads all over to cover everyone's backs. Peace.

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[–] MeatballPizza 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I've had a thread whacked, but agree it didn't comply with the terms below.

Better to have a bit of control over the site than the wild west. Show up at 2-4 a.m. and people toss up 12 stories about Jews sucking blood during circumcision, etc.

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[–] Galvarian 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Actually it's the Catholics who suck the babies penis after circumcision, but that's besides the point. The freedom of investigation is nothing without the freedom to offend. The mods should only be deleting illegal posts like Child Porn and leave the up and down voting to the people.

Mods who delete posts based upon religion or personal opinion should be deleted themselves IMHO.

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[–] reddit_framed_us [M] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

"I am a former mod" < this is most likely untrue. @LegionWill, you're a liar. Are you in the chat room right now? If so, why are you posting on an account that we are not aware of. All of the mods are supposed to share their pizzagate related username with the other mods.

I'm guessing the reason you're not on the voat modlist is because you weren't on the reddit modlist. And even if you were, we probably don't want your help as downsized the team to be "those who were helping with 'Dunkirk'" and the aftermath. All the mods who qualify are already in the modlist here in voat.

But, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that @LegionWill is a liar. If you were a mod, you can prove it cryptographically, and you know how. Do so or we'll just make sure to label every post you make with "LIAR".

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[–] HoocOtt 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I'm guessing the reason you're not on the voat modlist

Want to guess why I am not a mod? here or anywhere?

Cuz at voat it is a shit job and you are here only to keep illegal posts off. You are not a curator here. Stop thinking you are.

If you keep pushing it will end badly for you. pizzagate is not the first wave of redditors to sweep in here. Everytime they push their censorship bullshit voat pushes back.

Change your thinking now. Let the users choose what they like.

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