[–] [deleted] 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] Trump_makes_me_wet 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I would like to know the answer to this as well @kingkongwaswrong @sigmawarrior @reddit_framed_us @InvestigateThatShit @pizzathrowaway777 and @pizzapartywithkids . A lot of people are coming here as of late to escape censorship. I beg you to not bring the censorship here. We are already being censored on twitter, reddit, facebook, and youtube. Let's try to do this right when given the opportunity and platform that voat has given us. Even if there is an opinion or comment you don't agree with, then that should be an opportunity to discuss it logically and respectfully. Give the opposing a chance to change their view. No one is going to be receptive when you censor them or argue with disrespect.

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

yep we deleted 2 comments, I have had a word with the mod involved. They were overwhelmed with the reported comments. We aren't going to delete comments anymore, only things that are dangerous to sub members or against the rules (eg. CP)

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[–] kevdude 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Only the first five accounts get pinged.

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[–] reddit_framed_us 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

You've got my promise. And I was the one that deleted a comment or two by accident trying to work the spam queue. I actually sent 4 "How is this spam?" replies before thinking... well how are every. single. one of these people shills?

I hope people stop using the "mark spam" feature so much because right now we're just totally ignoring it. How's that for censorship-free?

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[–] pizzazumo 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

K dumbass

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

Just to reiterate this, we will be very reserved in deleting comments from now on. The incident was due to a janitor mod being overwhelmed by all the reported comments.

I have worked very hard to put together a trustworthy mod team. Lets see how we go, please let us know if you have any feedback or comments.

I continue to expect everyone to be vigilant and call us out or ANYONE out if you have suspicions. Our motto is trust, but verify :)

Thanks everyone!

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[–] justiceforever 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

@kingkongwaswrong I highly recommend allowing occasional "cirklejerk" posts. Maybe on a weekly basis, like Morale Monday

This subject is serious and burnout could become a real problem. People need to keep their spirits up and stay motivated.

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[–] pizzazumo 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Janitor mod what does that make you? Literally a fucking trashcan ? Delete this message too. Well keep making accounts :)

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[–] PresudentMcCheese 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Why would you want to keep comments with logical fallacies? This isn't daily kos or a climate scientist convention.

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[–] scandalouspizza 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Why would you want to keep comments with logical fallacies?

Because you might be wrong about them containing logical fallacies. Sometimes being logical is difficult :p

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[–] piratse 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Because this is vote you dumbass. Censorship is not tolerated here. I can call you a fucking faggot and the mods should move along. Mods on voat are to clean up spam and completely irrelevant submission. That's about it. Keep your reddit logic at reddit. "hurrr just censor the stuff that we don't like." That's not how freedom of speech and voat work.

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[–] NigsFromTwigs 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This thread is full of sucks and cucks

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[–] d347h574r 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You want to know what I think? After shockingly reading all of this information over the last 3 days, a few things have become pretty clear.

  1. The information that is available is very strange and very suspicious, but unless you guys are seeing something I'm not, it is not PROOF of anything. There should be at least some, preferably a lot more HARD evidence. I've seen all the instagram pictures, read all the e-mails, I know about Monica Petersen. There isn't one shred of what would be called PROOF anywhere. It would not be even remotely difficult for a jury to be passed through the needle of reasonable doubt on this. There needs to be a smoking gun, and no one has it yet.

  2. The inflammatory nature of the videos and comments that are floating around are fucking clickbait horseshit. I just watched one where the guys calls Marina Abromovich's spirit cooking rituals satanic, because, well, they look satanic and we all know what satanic rituals look like. Oh really? I fucking don't, and I'm pretty sure he didn't and none of you do either. All these kinds of videos are doing is discrediting this entire investigative process.

  3. The widespread censorship that is going on suggests, yes, they are in panic mode, but are also now fully aware of the gravity of the situation. A month ago, we were at the part in the movie where the level headed cop tells the hot-headed cop that "We don't have any proof! We need to lay low, build a case, let them go about their business like nothing is wrong so we can catch them in the act". Instead of laying low, we let the hot-head kick in the door, contaminate the crime scene and physically assault the perp. The lawyer has now shown up, taken the perp away and they are devising a strategy to move forward, are likely destroying or covering up any other evidence that might be laying around and putting everyone who might be involved on high-alert as well. Anyone who is involved with the alleged acts are on high alert and getting the smoking gun evidence will be next to impossible now. Like Tom Cruise in "A Few Good Men" said, "It doesn't matter what you believe, it only matters what you can prove!". Well, now we probably can't prove shit.

These people, if the allegations are true, are going to go back into hiding and wait for this to blow over, and sure as shit, it will, just like all the other "YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS" headlines that have come to light over the last few years. I fell sick to my fucking stomach that any of this could be true, but I am even more disgusted at the people using this as an opportunity to generate views on their fucking blogs or otherwise irrelevant youTube channels. If any of this was true, these people are so powerful and influential, there would have had to have been the use of subterfuge and make it so they couldn't see it coming. All those instagram accounts that were being waved in our faces like they were proud? All locked and private. All those e-mails that are supposedly so damning? How many of those do you think are going to to see the light of day now? Not only do they see it coming, its a fucking parade marching down the middle of the street yelling and screaming and waving banners, proud that "We're coming to get you, you fucks! WOOOOO!". I suspect that the chance of a smoking gun coming to light now is next to impossible and probably the chance gets worse with each passing minute. Sure, we know about how reddit can alter their site now, we know that MSM is biased and tells lies. But we wanted to save those children, and not only did we not save them, we probably made it so we never will.

Someone please tell me how wrong I am, because I am going fucking puke thinking that there might be monsters that are just going to get away with this. If there is a smoking gun out there, it needs to be found, like fucking YESTERDAY.

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[–] UglyTruth 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

it is not PROOF of anything

Building a prima facie case is the first step, not showing formal proof.

I fucking don't, and I'm pretty sure he didn't and none of you do either.

If you want to know what a satanic ritual looks like then do the research instead of advertising your ignorance.

Instead of laying low, we let the hot-head kick in the door

We haven't let anyone do anything, these choices are made by independent parties.

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[–] Investigate1999 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Hi.

I don't mean to distract from your main point, but it would be easier to read, if you used the quote formatting, which is the greater than symbol. You just need to type the greater than symbol before what you want to quote.

I could quote you like this.

"it is not PROOF of anything" - Building a prima facie case is the first step, not showing formal proof.

You should put a space after the greater than symbol.

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[–] d347h574r 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thanks for responding, you've given me some pause.

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[–] EndThePizza 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I agree with pretty much everything you said. We don't have any actual proof yet, and we need something truly undeniable if they're going to be held accountable. The cheap clickbait presentation really makes it look like some "crazy conspiracy theory" that should be ignored. I wish people hadn't tipped them off, because it would've helped greatly with getting real evidence.

However, I don't think we ever would've found any type of "walk in on them molesting children" evidence. I think the best evidence possible is in records: donations, emails, etc. In this regard, the problem is that we never got Phase 3 from Wikileaks.

We might not immediately have something to put them in jail, but this is going to hit the mainstream soon. At that point, it won't actually be evidence that matters, it will be public opinion. I'm not sure even the media will be able to play this off as if they're innocent.

The FBI has an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation that they've been working on for a long time. I have to think they've got information that we don't - we only have what's publicly available. I don't know if they need us to find links to help put the pieces together, or shift public opinion to make it possible for them to release what they have. (I'm sure they're under pressure not to 'out' all these powerful people. But if there's public outrage, then they have to.)

When FBI Anon shared his hints, he must've known that the internet wouldn't keep it a secret. He knew that if he leaked info it would spread - that's why he leaked it in the first place.

There's more people investigating this every day, and nobody's going to let go of this. It's too big and too heinous.

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[–] FriendshipMystery 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Who is FBI anon?

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[–] Grrrrr 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This isn't just DC we are talking about. They have probably set up operations in most major cities in the same model as the DC model.

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[–] d347h574r 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thank you for your response :)

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[–] Investigate1999 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I totally agree with you. I think that the children that are going to be captured in the next year are as good as already dead, because the evil forces have already scurried into hiding.

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[–] throwaway_ 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Awesome comment man. I hear you and I understand. You are right, but in the same time, this has been going on for a long time and it is still going on today (see Jimmy Saville). The authorities can't do anything, or they would have done something a long time ago. The "good guys" in the FBI need us to bring this to light, in order to pressure the authorities to take a stand instead of covering it up. Podesta brothers went silent, under the radar. The pedo network is also covering up their track. Jerk Alefantis is left fighting it out alone... cracks appeared in the network, people don't wanna go down with them. They will make mistakes, somebody will talk eventually. CF is the main suspect and they have too much crap to be able to cover it up. Keep digging and they will be busted soon.

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[–] Stab 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

@kingkongwaswrong Complete copy of original Pizzagate Summary deleted from reddit:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1434956

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[–] Stab 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Good internet privacy tips: Get a VPN, use Tor and anonymous search like DuckDuckGo: https://www.privacytools.io/

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[–] SterlingJB 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

A few questions: What are the parameters for suggesting companies to investigate? I found other companies, in smaller towns across the US famous for weak pedophile charges, that also chose certain now well known logos, that also donated substantially, based on size of business, to CF and/or HRC. The reason I'd want to do this is that all I have is circumstantial, but if a post about one of these companies reaches someone from one of these towns or just someone familiar with these cos or corps, it might lead to something more substantial. The other question I have is about the the random pizza videos, and other funky vid themes, that have phone numbers and addresses embedded in them. Should I be posting these numbers? Does this even help? Basically, how do we go about investigating stuff like this without ruining businesses and lives based on circumstantial evidence? Because from my pov exposing the network piece by piece seems like the most viable route.

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

just put together what you have, articulate it well and provide links/sources/pictures to help people reading and help them connect things if they think of them. That's all we can hope for.

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[–] Chance903 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

**I would like to add in my two cents , I do not know much about this community. I would like to add I am a former medically retired SO, I was working in the sex crimes unit I am very familiar with finding and investigation 290 crimes. All I want to say is you should organize into teams on who is going to investigate what and perhaps get a discord so you can get to know each other and build trust. I want to make this perfectly clear, what all of you are trying to do is admirable but you could end up suicide, my son is on 4chan and has been for years he has begged me to stir clear of this , but you all are so scattered GET ORGANIZED break up into teams so you do not waste time and duplicate your work..DO NOT TRUST ANYONE NEW, even me, Just do not trust. If anyone needs or wants to speak to me can speak with me on discord or skype. I want to help , I have given years of my life to help others but I am not sure I want to die. this is not melodrama . I have worked for the Government **

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[–] Canarycbradio 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So beyond agree. Pl pm

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[–] kevdude 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

We are not going to be deleting comments based on reports unless they are something that endangers the members or subverse, or violates the rules at Voat.

Saying arabs are faggots who like to fuck kids fits none of these parameters. Yet one of your mods censored a comment for it.

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[–] kingkongwaswrong [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I saw that and was shocked too, I thought I'd made myself clear to those guys. I had a chat to him about that, I am totally against that moderation decision. I've made it very clear that we are doing zero comment moderation at this point.

edit - ive removed this mod

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[–] nativeops 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

walterpearce dot info - dont want the hyperlink to show up in search. this person was affiliated with jimmycomet these children look like victims of the child trafficking rings.

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[–] Ninjakick666 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

http://imgur.com/a/Ugosn

Anyone checked into Pizza Pipeline?

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