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Submission Rules
See also "subverse best practices"
Policy on linking dangerous research
1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities. See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
2: Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link. If you ask a question: Explain what led to your question and provide sources. If you present opinion/argument, connect your dots and provide sources for them. Avoid baseless speculation. ALL posts must include at least one link.
3: Clarity: All titles must adequately describe post content and must establish direct relevance to pizzagate. EACH link in your post must include a description of content and how the link relates to the post (except when markup is used to embed links in the specific text they support).
4: Meta submissions and general discussion submissions without sources will be removed. Please submit indirectly relevant posts to /v/pizzagatewhatever and unsourced questions to /v/AskPizzagate. Sourced activism / publicity posts and memes are allowed. Posts about the subverse itself go to /v/pizzagatemods.
5: You must label NSFW posts (“Not safe for work”; for example gore, nudity etc.) as such when submitting.
6: No Link Posts -- Only editable submissions made with the "Discuss" button are allowed. "Link" submissions have been banned by the community for the reasons described here. Link posts will be immediately removed.
Adspam, illegal content, and personal info about Voat subscribers will be removed, and the offender will be banned.
Moderator Rules and Removal Explanations
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[–] Spuddlebuns ago (edited ago)
Agreed, by itself, it is nothing. BUT, it is just one more piece of a mountain of little pieces to prove that "if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..." If you only approve "HARD evidence," without taking the literal tons of circumstantial, you will find very very few pieces to connect the dots. Like the fact that the "Comet Ping Pong" sign over the building has NO comet on it, but DOES have a well documented satanic symbol in the corners of the sign. There is also a strange sculptural shape above the door said to resemble a clitoris, but it is not visible in the picture of Comet Ping Pong with the christmas lights. Was it removed? Besta Pizza changed their "boy-love" logo after it was pointed out publicly. The people who are "connected," seem to be those involved, and the evidence that is being collected is being done, with the general consensus that an awful lot of "eyes wide shut" type of open display is going on. The Instagram photos from Alefantis' account (which have been archived) are rife with open symbolism and not so subtle comments from his friends. The artwork, the hidden doorways, the underground tunnel complex, the ownership of surrounding buildings. So much of it taken by itself seems harmless. But when you step back and look at things as a whole, it starts to paint a very scary and ugly picture. Why is it that SO many of the people involved, however tangentially, have CP attached to them in various ways? Very few "citizens" have even one acquaintance into CP. In DC, it seems to be a sub-culture like people who like startbucks... Here is an interesting "connect the dots" graphic of lots of "soft" evidence...How much creepier do the little things have to get before they add up as a whole? https://archive.is/7bfgI/1a999a0d41cbaba55d82bdfbfd18e3a56bac2e54.png
[–] piratse ago
The problem here is that you seem to be confused on how this whole thing works. You are now the investigator, not the average citizen. I am, honestly, not being sarcastic. But it goes: weird shit gets noticed> put together random connections> use the circumstantial connections and evidence to build to a concise and proven case with reliable facts backing it up> ignore the things that are misleading or so vague they serve no purpose> compile a list of proven evidence that is easily relateable and easy to understand> share this proven and easily relateable evidence with the general public> ignore those that excuse it away> eventually the side that see's it for what it is gets too big to ignore> justice.
You can't force people to see things this vague. This email is literally nothing. 100% in my mind. No Doubt. EVEN IF the logo is "something", this email does not advance that to the stage of building a proven case. You are rambling off things that have NOTHING to do with this particular email. THIS email is nothing. If the logo is something, the proof of that is not here.
[–] Spuddlebuns 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago (edited ago)
Again, taken by itself, it could easily be dismissed as "nothing." But, when taken in context with the accumulating pile of "nothings," SOMETHING seems to be amiss. You are working far too hard to dismiss a piece of the puzzle as not showing the entire picture. But that is how a jigsaw puzzle, and as corollary, #pizzagate and similar investigations work. You also seem to be trying very hard to pigeon-hole people into roles YOU think we are serving. I am not the investigator, not by a long shot. And, I would venture, neither are a majority of the people who are asking questions about the evidence being presented to us. As intelligent people (for the most part,) we do not blindly accept what is put before us on "teh Internets," so we question, and we DISCUSS. But along come the "thought police," who try very hard to dismiss the things we question as "nothing to see here, move along," and "you need HARD evidence, etc. etc."
No one is trying to convince you of anything, bub. But if you cannot make a fairly simple connection of dots in order to come to the conclusion that something does not seem right here, I personally don't care. I DO care, though that you are expending so much energy to dismiss out of hand any particular piece of the puzzle you don't seem to agree with. It is just the ONE piece of the puzzle you don't like, or are you attempting to use this to dismiss the entire situation, by 'debunking' each piece, one by one???
If this is "...literally nothing. 100% in my mind. No Doubt," is YOUR opinion, fine. More power to you. But why are you so fixate on attempting to get everyone else to dismiss it likewise? Whatever "proof" you think needs to be displayed may or may not already be there for other people. YOU may need further convincing. So be it. That does not imply that you are the "proof sheriff," nor that your disbelief need be so vehement in an effort to discredit any piece of information, no matter how trivial, JUST because YOU do not believe...
Also, what "rulebook" are you reading that describes oh-so-clearly "how this whole thing works?" I'd like to order a copy...