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Policy on linking dangerous research
1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities. See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
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[–] piratse 0 points 16 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago (edited ago)
Woah, woah, woah..... Am I reading this wrong? He is FORWARDING a message that says My graphics guy sent this. And the attachment is the logo https://i.sli.mg/HFiz1V.png . Podesta forwards it and says "our pizza logo." This is pretty much nothing from what I can tell. I get emails from our businesses design guy on occasion, and I'll forward them to my partner and say shit like "the new logo. Want me to come by on Friday?" This looks like nothing unless someone can explain it better to me.
[–] disco__ 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
How do people get so motivated to post something without actually reading the entire source material
[–] piratse 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Confirmation bias. They see a "code word" that is also a normal word and read too much into it. The whole point of "code words" are that they also are normal words that people use all the time. A code word like "pizza" can be used in normal conversation "lets get pizza on Thursday"(we ALL talk about pizza) but it can also be used in code "I want to coconut that pizza in it's underage walnut sauce tonight." But you have to take the context into consideration. Which people didn't do in this submission. Code words are, by design, created to be words used all the time until they are used in the proper context with other words.
[–] dindonufin 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
It's a message from Alafantis to TONY Podesta, who then forwards it to JOHN Podesta... Maybe nothing, maybe not. Notice the address - could be code - who knows. It's not new and was discovered early in the investigation. Definitely pizza related.
[–] Spuddlebuns ago
You don't see the phallic symbol of the red shaft from the hillary logo, running up to the point of the pizza, then making a red outline along the red edge, to emphasize that the pizza slices are the phallic head... Nor that the pizza slices very deliberately "penetrate" the hillary logo...This is why convincing the public is going to be so difficult. They simply do not see...
[–] piratse 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
But it isn't a connection. The symbol is the symbol, the email says nothing. Wasting time and energy on dead ends will never yield results. You need hard evidence. I've been looking into pizzagate since day one, and this email is nothing. EVEN IF the logo is "pedoish" this email is nothing. Find HARD evidence. Find records of missing children "helped" by the "charity" of HRC. Find pictures. Find video. Convince people that are connected just enough to come out with or collect evidence. Things like this will never convince anyone because there is nothing of substance. Your interpretation of a designers logo isn't proof.