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[–] fuxreddit [S] 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

But to Kang, the adjective "modernist" suffices. This is deliberately misleading. Nobody is saying that these paintings "prove" anything, but why go out of your way to describe them as benign and "modernist"?

5) "Days before the election, users on the online message board 4chan noticed that one of Mr. Podesta's emails contained communications with Mr. Alefantis discussing a fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton. The 4Chan users immediately speculated about the links between Comet Ping Pong and the Democratic Party. Some posited the restaurant was part of a larger Democratic child trafficking ring, which was a theory long held by some conservative blogs."

OVERSIMPLIFICATION, NO SOURCES CITED: 4chan was the first to discover weird references to "pizza" in Podesta's emails. That led to someone suggesting that "pizza" was a codeword for either child porn or children. However, that was preceded by a reddit post that was retweeted by Wikileaks about Hillary Clinton's connection to Laura Silsby, an American woman arrested for attempted child trafficking in Haiti. (Haiti is mentioned zero times in this article, despite it being one of the strongest leads to come out of #PizzaGate.)

Keep in mind (because Kang doesn't) that all this was also happening against the backdrop of the #SpiritCooking revelations, as well as several CIA-linked public figures (Steve Pieczenik, Erik Prince) telling alternative rightwing media outlets (Breitbart, Infowars) that the evidence found on Anthony Weiner's computer related, in part, to child trafficking networks and horrible sex crimes against children. It's unclear if these are the news sites Kang is referring to when she constantly mentions "Fake News", but the fact that she never clarifies the matter is problematic.

Whether one believes these sources or not, several shadowy insiders were publicly leaking (supposedly accurate) intel about Clinton ties to human trafficking that just so happened to line up with 4chan and Reddit stumbling upon "Spirit Cooking" and "Pizza" in the Wikileaks emails. (Come to think of it, there's not one mention of "Spirit Cooking" in this entire piece, even though it was another one of the catalyzing incidents that led directly to Pizzagate - #SpiritCooking even trended on Twitter in the final week of the election.)

6) "Glen Caplin, a former campaign official for Mrs. Clinton, did not comment directly about Comet Ping Pong but said, “WikiLeaks has spawned several conspiracy theories that have been independently debunked.” Mr. Podesta did not respond to requests for comment."

NO EVIDENCE/APPEAL TO AUTHORITY: Kang doesn't elaborate on Caplin's vague claim that "several conspiracy theories" from Wikileaks have been "independently debunked". No evidence is provided, and no follow-up questions are asked, but for the record, no one has successfully challenged the authenticity of the emails that Wikileaks has released thus far. Once again, the reader is simply expected to take a Clinton campaign spokesperson at their (brief, evasive) word.

7) "Most troubling for Mr. Alefantis and staff has been the use of children’s images, pilfered from the restaurant’s social media pages and the personal accounts of friends who had “liked” Comet Ping Pong online. Those photos have been used across dozens of websites. Parents, who declined to talk publicly for fear of retribution, have hired lawyers to get the photos removed."

MISLEADING LANGUAGE: Kang makes it sound like pizzagaters took pictures of children off of Comet Pizza's official pages, and off random people who merely "liked" official Comet Ping Pong posts. This is false. The vast majority of the disturbing images were "pilfered" from James Alefantis's personal, public Instagram account. The others were from several accounts of his employees and associates, all of whom do not have children of their own. The "Parents, who declined to talk publicly for fear of retribution..." don't bother to give even an anonymous quote. Who are they? Surprisingly, nobody has figured it out. I recall at least 5 different infants and children on James' instagram alone. None of the supposed "parents" of the pictured children have - as of now, Nov. 22 - been identified via social media research.

Kang is correct that 4chan users searched through the accounts of everyone who "liked" those creepy baby photographs - but they didn't find a single parent. Instead, they found Assistant US Attorney Arun G. Rao, whose jurisdiction in southern Maryland covers child pornography and racketeering cases. Funny how that didn't make it in.

I could pick apart more but I'm fading fast. It s

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[–] afterbernerthrowaway 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Thanks for this breakdown. The intentional obfuscation and omission of facts and evidence in a FACT-CHECKING article from the New York Times is, to me, a pretty big red flag that this is huge and real. And I just rechecked the article, which has a new headline: Fake News Onslaught Targets Pizzeria as Nest of Child-Trafficking

The viralization of the "fake news" and "alt-right" buzz words (seriously, mainstream media/Internet Powers That Be make a "these are fake news sources" list right in the midst of independent sites breaking the Pizzagate story?) make it so clear that they're actively trying to undermine this investigation without proving that its allegations are baseless.

The more they suppress this, the guiltier and more complicit they look. Hopefully the Streisand Effect rears its head now.

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[–] ThrowMeAVoat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thank you for this honest, logical breakdown. Interesting development, they've removed the "Fact Check" part of the article!

Also related, the Renegade Tribune/The New Nationalist blasted the NY Times article and responded to these "fake news" allegations. Good on them!

http://www.renegadetribune.com/new-york-times-fact-checks-pizzagate/

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[–] chickyrogue 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

NYT sadly long ago sold their soul and propagandised the iraq war then they tried their damndest to get hillary [s]elected now this they must like pizza and hot dogs themselves

SHUT THEM DOWN!

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[–] hunt1954 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

My view is that the NY Times article represents push back from whomever is behind this whole thing. I don't think an innocent pizza parlor would get a NY Times article defending them. Why would they care. They would care if this was a well connected establishment that someone important sees it worth defending. The PizzaGate effort has scored a major success in eliciting this article and the Reddit ban.

People need to start writing to their Congressmen (or Women) about PizzaGate and the need for an investigation. Also, those that could should consider putting the evidence on personal websites.

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[–] IlluminatiKing 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

  1. A guy's name that literally means "I love children" is shocked that his pizza shop is a front for pedophilia.

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[–] pizzaisgross 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Who? Alefantis?

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[–] IlluminatiKing 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yes. James Alefantis/ J'aime les enfants = I love the children (French)

Not exactly, but sounds close.

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[–] deadmonkey34 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This is really quality stuff, OP. Thank you.

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[–] MaxBiggaveil 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Agreed. Keep up the good work.

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[–] PizzaBurner0 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

OP thank you so much for posting to ... where am I now.... voat. Yours was one of the articles I was really sad I didn't have an open browser for on reddit

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[–] pizzaisgross 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I want to give these theories a fair shake, but permit me to be skeptical about some details? E.g. the murals with the severed heads. I grant that might be disturbing to some, but the connection with pedophilia seems tenuous to me, so at best it just adds to a picture of Comet owners being not quite right in the head, perhaps.

Also, if "pizza" is recognized code for child sex, I wonder how there ended up being any connection between Podesta and an actual pizza restaurant? Seems like a weird coincidence. If Alefantis is a real pedo, did he decide to start a pizzeria as some kind of sick joke? The alternative explanation is that the mentions of "pizza" in the emails really do just refer to actual pizza. What I'm saying is that the "child sex" reading of "pizza" in the emails would be more plausible if there was no connection with real pizza in Podesta's circles.

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[–] trsnews 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

These people are proud to be pizza lovers. Everything they do is pompous in nature.

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[–] totorox 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not all murals are absolute redflags, but some are.

http://i.imgur.com/GE407Mg.png

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[–] morojax 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

How are the NYT still in business honestly? Pure propaganda outlet

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[–] totorox 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Gee do you really have to ask? Simple really, focus your digging laser on their (((faces))).

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