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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 3 points 18 points (+21|-3) ago  (edited ago)

What's the context for the picture on the left? Shouldn't we be encouraging them to fight back against the shitty Islamists in their home country, maybe he was trying to push out ISIS?
Side note, how many of the people in this thread have pictures of themselves with a gun?

Edit: Found him in the BBC! Was totally fighting against ISIS. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34176631

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[–] BrownMoses [S] 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

Encouraging shitty Islamists is the exactly how ISIS became a force to be reckoned with.

Encouraging shitty Islamists is how Al Qaeda and the Taliban became a powerful enough to control Afghanistan.

Fighting against ISIS does not make one necessarily good. There are plenty of violent jihadist head-choppers that target ethnic and religious minorities for slaughter that are currently fighting ISIS.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Agreed. That's why the US had such problems after supporting them to push the Russians out of Afghanistan during the cold war. Going forward the west needs to be very careful about who they support because like you say the enemy of our enemy isn't necessarily our friend.

However, the west should still support legitimate governments in defending against them so that there's not a humanitarian crisis like the refugees Europe is now seeing.

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[–] CaptainRex 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

Agreed, context would make or break this juxtaposition. Perhaps he's a reformed ISIS recruit, and not a hypocrite?

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Maybe better than that, maybe he was fighting them? If there's a civil war there's two sides by definition.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

A disastrous short war between the two with heavy casualties on both sides so the world can move on from extremism?

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[–] BrownMoses [S] 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

maybe he was trying to push out ISIS?

You could not have been more wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/Fhw7N52.jpg

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Ok... someone (probably you) put ISIS under the picture in MS Paint. Again... what are we looking at here?

Edit: He also seems pretty clean shaven for a "religious fanatic" in picture 2.

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

So the poor guy can't have a range day every now and then before being kicked out of his own country?

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I mean that's what all the 2a guys are about right? Not letting crazy radical shitheads like ISIS take over your country? There's like a 50/50 chance this guy could be pretty cool.

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[–] savageslav 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

What if this lovely family needed to seek asylum?

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

They probably wouldn't have to ;)

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[–] savageslav 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well, to be fair that guy in the picture also looked like he didn't need it :)

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[–] aileron_ron 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

With all those "Asylum Seeker" rushing only to UK,Germany and not any other country's the world must call them welfare seekers.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They're rushing to Germany because the German government rejected the Dublin Regulations and appears to be encouraging them to. Their population density curve is really lopsided but they have a banging economy for the moment which could be a reason for them doing that. They're not wanting to stay in Hungary because the Hungarian government is trying to push them out but more importantly because their economy is shit. The majority of the German people are on board in surveys as well with the exception of the more vocal nationalists. This may change because they're going to have problems with screening and integration, but I don't think those problems are insurmountable if they can manage to have reasonable discussion about how to do so.

I think the UK is seeing it more for different reasons, partially the "fault" of the US. Because we have so much world influence and cultural export English has become a super lingua franca so I suspect they're hoping for it to be easier to integrate. Despite what the Britts will loudly tell you I don't think their welfare is so great compared to other mainland EU member states.

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[–] BrownMoses [S] 4 points 1 points (+5|-4) ago 

the world must call them welfare seekers.

That's exactly what they are.

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[–] ScientiaPotentia 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's funny how Asylum Seekers, refugees, even legal immigrants rarely ever live up to the SJW expectation of a noble, hard working, moral and innocent person who is simply seeking a better life for their children. The vast majority of non-Europeans I have met are shallow, cowardly, immoral, opportunists who hate Europeans and would betray their own people if there were long term sustainable profit in it. And by long term sustainable profit I mean welfare in a Western country.

The people flooding into the West today are our enemies. They don't care about us and simply want to replace us. If we died out and left them a society of wealth and prosperity they would be happiest. Honestly think about it. Do Muslims and Africans really want happy and prosperous European people on earth? Do they care about the health and sustainability of the European family? of course not. Do they want us to exist or do they just want something for themselves? The European people are nothing to them, but an opportunity for gain.

This man is the perfect example of the invader who pretends to be helpless. The wolf in sheep's clothing.

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[–] President-Sanders 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They fucked their country, they should fix it, force them to fight and be invested in their shitty fuckass countries.

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[–] President-Sanders 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Yes, which is what I suggest the main US input should be - the fact is the people doing those jobs are also lazy and stupid.

So.

ISIS get the guns. lol.

Still kill some ISIS, get some guns, kill some more, get some more.

Don't be a fag and come to europe and then start all that fucking ghost worshiping goat fucking nonsense and then wanting school means to be more halal and girls to not sit near boys and woman to be allowed full burqajerks, fuuuuuck that fucking shiiiiit. lol.

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[–] Cybersoldier8 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Body armor and a rifle doesn't mean this guy is a terrorist. He could be somebody trying to defend his home, using the tools available. While I do think that a lot of these immigrants now flooding the west are basically human garbage, there is nothing in the left image to indicate this guy is doing anything unjust.

Hell, take a look at the facebook pages of any southern friends you might have. You might find pictures fairly similar to this one, only with the subject holding an AR instead of an AK.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Maybe an AK, it's a damn fine weapon it just gets a bad (good?) rap for being more 'scary' than the AR.

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[–] Cybersoldier8 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The AK isn't a bad platform, just less common in the US.

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[–] criminalmacabre 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

All brown peple look the same, eh?

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[–] BrownMoses [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's the same person you fucking idiot.

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