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[–] SuperHappyFunBall 5 points 27 points (+32|-5) ago 

Everything the men on that battlefield died to protect is today being given away to foreigners without a fight.

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[–] GoogleStoleMyBike [S] 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Especially Verdun. This battle was specifically designed to be a meat grinder, with the main goal being to kill as many men as possible. There would be 750,000+ casualties with an estimated 250,000 dead and missing by the end of the battle of Verdun. Absolutely insane.

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[–] Pawn 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

cept for the part of trump's kids marrying jews, and trump putting a jew in his cabinet, and appointing goldman sachs jews to the cabinet. That breitbart people love here, is basically a news site to protect israel from right wingers.

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[–] jeegte12 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

i'm willing to bet you know next to nothing about this battle or even WW1 in general

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[–] Sippio 6 points 1 points (+7|-6) ago  (edited ago)

The fact that he made their cause into some sappy sentimentality, I'd say you're right. Those men died to protect monarchs and their ambitions, blinded by a combination of national jingoism, and ignorance of the enemy they fought.

It's tiresome that any time there's something interesting posted on /v/pics, there has to be some contrived plug about apocalyptic fears on immigration. These people would fit right in with the mindset that resulted in WWI.

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[–] Ywis 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Not really forever though.

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[–] DigitalRefugee 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah. And not even in long periods of geological time either.

A few thousand years of rain, freeze-thaw cycles and surface vegetation succession and it will be back to level.

In fact, given how pulverized the area was - ie. no big rocks left - it will probably settle as a very unnaturally flat place.

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[–] Ywis 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Good point

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[–] GoogleStoleMyBike [S] 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

That's true, I suppose I could have said "still shaped" in place of forever. OP = faggot, as always.

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[–] lord_nougat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

So...

How YOU doin'?

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[–] ninjai 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Looks like it'd made a fun golf course

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[–] pinkmagnet 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

Damn. Just thinking of all the men that fought and died for their country and beliefs. That it can all be taken away peacefully in just a 3-4 generations. Only to be destroyed once again by the same evil.

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[–] Erwachener 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

This. I can't remember the quote but it was something along the lines of the only thing a soldier can hope for is to make it back home in one piece. I know its vague but the quote was fucking awesome.

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[–] srgmpdns 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

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[–] 7232591 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I've been listening to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History Armageddon podcast lately. (Definitely recommend - they are free) He's quite good at painting the picture and giving a sense of what it was like. Some of the quotes from letters home from soldiers etc he reads out are really heartbreaking.

The amount of artillery and shit the men back then went through is astounding and appalling. Gaining an apolitical deep sense of appreciation for what these people went through should be mandatory for every generation.

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[–] GoogleStoleMyBike [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes! That podcast is fantastic! He's great at putting an image of the horror these guys went through in your head. The letters always get to me too. Would definitely recommend to anyone who hasn't listened to it.

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[–] 7237438 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah I just finished his Armageddon series, going to listen to the American peril one next I think. Really good podcast.

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[–] BentAxel 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

As a history nerd, thank you. For those that don't know about the Battle of Verdun: Link I posted this so you could see the land before the trees.

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[–] GoogleStoleMyBike [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Yep, the Battle of Verdun truly was hell on earth. Non-stop shelling, being forced to live alongside the corpses and body parts of your fallen brothers, striken with dysentery from the rotting filth, gas attacks, massive shell craters filled with poisonous water (from rotting corpses and gas residue), snipers, machine gun fire, and even more shelling. I can't imagine having to live in such conditions, nor can I believe anyone came out of that with their sanity.

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[–] BentAxel 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

From what I understand, many did not. It was called "Shell Shock." Thanks for your insight. I love history. I hope we learn from it.

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[–] Erwachener 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I wonder why they didn't decide to change warfare tactics when the tench option was so horribly flawed? Part of me thinks its the mobility of later tanks that changed warfare in WWII.

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[–] Grumpy_Old_Man 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

My grandfather was in WW1 (not this battle) and was wounded by an artillery shell. He spent a year in the hospital recovering.

Needless to say, he never talked about it. After he died in 1978, I got his purple heart. It meant a lot to me.

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[–] 7232662 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

So many of them didn't speak about it. The hell they went through is insane. Pushes men beyond their mind back into animal instincts. A lot of them did and witnessed things they were ashamed and/or horrified by.

If you are interested look up Dan Carlin's Hardcore History Armageddon podcast series. He does a good job of painting what they went through.

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[–] Grumpy_Old_Man 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I will definitely look him up. I listen to podcasts at work all the time.

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