You can login if you already have an account or register by clicking the button below.
Registering is free and all you need is a username and password. We never ask you for your e-mail.
[+]Release2 points-2 points0 points
ago
(edited ago)
[–]Release2 points
-2 points
0 points
(+0|-2)
ago
(edited ago)
Left wing systems are supposed to be the opposite of the authoritarian systems of the right. But you are giving examples of fascist dictators who have used left wing systems as methods of social control. Does anybody in their right mind genuinely think Stalin was on the left? He was on the side of whatever gave him absolute power and it's as simple as that.
If you had put Hitler in charge of Russia, and Stalin in charge of Germany, then I wager exactly the same things would have happened.
[+]Release3 points-3 points0 points
ago
(edited ago)
[–]Release3 points
-3 points
0 points
(+0|-3)
ago
(edited ago)
Exactlly SUPPOSED
Left wing systems are of greater benefit to the majority of people, but they cannot be implemented for that precise same reason. We already live in a world where power is not distributed equally, and those with power do not want to lose it. Many historical figures have used the rhetoric of the left, but only to gain power for themselves. Many more did so inadvertently, without ever starting out with that intention.
If you read Marx it is obvious where the left made its mistake and that was the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917. A bloody and savage coup ordered by Lenin, which took it away from Marx's argument that intellectual revolution was the only way to overthrow capitalism. Lenin saw the people as sheep kept fat on a diet of Tsarist propaganda -- which, in fairness, they largely were -- and decided he was going to educate them by force.
view the rest of the comments →
[–] Release 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago (edited ago)
Left wing systems are supposed to be the opposite of the authoritarian systems of the right. But you are giving examples of fascist dictators who have used left wing systems as methods of social control. Does anybody in their right mind genuinely think Stalin was on the left? He was on the side of whatever gave him absolute power and it's as simple as that.
If you had put Hitler in charge of Russia, and Stalin in charge of Germany, then I wager exactly the same things would have happened.
[–] HeavyBrain ago
Exactlly SUPPOSED.
[–] Release 3 points -3 points 0 points (+0|-3) ago (edited ago)
Left wing systems are of greater benefit to the majority of people, but they cannot be implemented for that precise same reason. We already live in a world where power is not distributed equally, and those with power do not want to lose it. Many historical figures have used the rhetoric of the left, but only to gain power for themselves. Many more did so inadvertently, without ever starting out with that intention.
If you read Marx it is obvious where the left made its mistake and that was the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917. A bloody and savage coup ordered by Lenin, which took it away from Marx's argument that intellectual revolution was the only way to overthrow capitalism. Lenin saw the people as sheep kept fat on a diet of Tsarist propaganda -- which, in fairness, they largely were -- and decided he was going to educate them by force.