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[–] the_magic_man 0 points 58 points (+58|-0) ago 

Look at that backdrop. The nazis had the coolest shit

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago 

Every time I see a photo from that period, I amazed by their branding. I don't know who was in charge of that stuff for them, but their work is fantastic. The communists in Russia had decades to try and match what the Nazis did in only about 10 years during their rise to power and it never comes close.

The party symbols and the subtle difference between them and the national symbols is amazing. Sometimes I feel like half the reason games keep getting made about Nazis is just because the art is so freaking cool.

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[–] pitenius 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

It's kind of a shame that people can't discuss the period. I think the Third Reich is the last flowering of the Romantic style. It never really had deep roots in the US and its development was foreshortened in the US by the building of the Gilded Era and its archaicizing Anglophilia (look at Yale). This style lasted a long time. Too long (look at UChicago). As for the branding, thank Himmler, who borrowed from Guido von List. These ideas, however, were not conceived in a vacuum, and as Nazis claimed, reflected a modern recreation of an idealized early Germanic culture. It's idealized in that it's often ahistorical and wrong, but there was a cohesiveness to the design. Even then, a lot of it is somewhat poorly done. (Consider how rarely Leni Reifenstahl manages to pull perfect focus.) Nonetheless, there is something inspired.

I'd disagree -- and strongly -- about the USSR. They had a significant stumbling block. Whereas Nazis could just edit the past into what they liked and what looked good, Marxists rejected history (and all its success) in pursuit of a Novus Homo. This is a big difference. Nazis were the Boston Pops -- perhaps simplistic, perhaps pandering, but accessible and dynamic. Soviets were Philip Glass -- weird, sterile, forced, disconcerting.

It fell flat. Germans had been playing this game longer. By 1880, they were the backward people of Europe and had tried to revolutionize through aping Art Deco, Neue Künstlervereinigung München (which was something of a precursor to the Soviet style), Expressionism like Die Brücke, and Bauhaus. They'd seen where these styles fell flat. Russians went from peasant to art commissioner in 5 years. They went from drawing chickens on teapots to making monumental sculptures and were severely misled by ideology. Then, they doubled-down on stupid.

Sorry for the rant... you're right about the games. Nazi iconography always invokes emotion... but notice how much Soviet work comes up. It almost always invokes a smothering bureaucracy. It's even worse in China.

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[–] HeavyBrain 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

To bad the Germans cant enjoy those games because everthing that goes in direction of nazi symbolic gets censored.

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[–] 3dk 1 points 27 points (+28|-1) ago  (edited ago)

As a German, I'm glad to see this. I have no idea whether the facts in this video are all correct, but simply being able to hear a well-articulated alternative viewpoint is refreshing. In school many of my teachers used the expression "history is written by the victors", now I can at least begin to understand the meaning of that. Just the fact that you are not allowed to doubt the official holocaust narrative has always bothered me and reeks of propaganda. I wonder whether my history teachers would have liked to give a more balanced picture of the events of WWII, if the current climate of political correctness and the resulting danger of losing their jobs wasn't stifling speech on the topic.

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[–] KosherHiveKicker 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You are most welcome. The truth is out there if you keep looking.

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[–] Vladimara 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Just the fact that you are not allowed to doubt the official holocaust narrative has always bothered me and reeks of propaganda.

I always seen it like someone doubting that the earth is round and instead is flat.

Sure you can say the earth is flat but you are going to get some scornful looks, that doubting the official earth roundness narrative "just reek of propaganda."

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[–] jobes 4 points -3 points (+1|-4) ago 

I like the "Amalek film productions" part

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[–] Alias_Unknown 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

I believe a lot of that is an attempt to not repeat the past.

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[–] blackguard19 9 points 24 points (+33|-9) ago  (edited ago)

Hitler did not want a war with the United States or Britain, in fact he desperately tried to avoid it. Not only was it not in his interests, he knew Germany didn't have the manpower or equipment to take a fight across the Atlantic.

"The winners write history" and we are taught one version of Hitler - the Jewish version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAV1_bol2BM

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[–] Aldo 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Are you saying Hitler wasn't that bad of a guy?

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[–] blackguard19 7 points 22 points (+29|-7) ago 

I'm saying he was a great man who loved his country.

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[–] 5862105 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago  (edited ago)

That's just bullshit. Why did he invade Poland when the Brits guaranteed their independence? Why did he use terror bombing against London (which they had previously disavowed) if they didn't want Britain's ally to enter the war? Why didn't he disavow Hirohito's attack on Pearl Harbor? Why did he launch an enormous aggressive war which was designed to destroy the delicate balance of power that both the USA and Britain depended on? You nazis are so fucking stupid. You think you're so proud of being white, yet the vast majority of people that Hitler killed were white (even if not one jew died in the Holocaust). He destroyed so much artwork, leveled cities, and is used to discredit nationalist movements to this day. Fuck that socialist.

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[–] MoonMansWay 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Hitler invaded Poland for the same reasons he invaded Czechoslovakia - The ethnically German populations who were, only two decades prior, apart of Germany were being massacred by Polish police and Polish mobs for protesting to rejoin Germany. One of the biggest Massacres was the Danzig Massacre (Which I would love to source but online sources are dodgey. There are a plethora of books on the subject, but its one of those moments in history that was scrubbed away.)

This reddit post actually is well sourced and goes in depth on Polish-German relations prior to the invasion.

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[–] Vladimara 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

And have you heard of the Bibles depiction of Judaism?

The little bit where the Egyptians kept the Jewish people as slaves, and they all escaped?

And how the Egyptian history never once mentioned them? People responded that it would have been embarrassing, and so they didn't write about it because the victors write the history books!

But it turns out that was proven false, the Jewish where never slaves to the Egyptians and never crossed a desert.

Even still, the whole "Victors write the history books" bit is a bullshit argument, one that implies that fucking everyone just tampers with history at a whim. Ancient Rome kept a tab of history, including their losses, and they're the people that you would most expect to lie about that shit! No, not everyone tampers with history, at least successfully. It's pretty damn fucking hard to fabricate history, no matter who the hell you are. Even the Illuminati Jews.

Fucking red pill me, I DARE you to. I will literally pay you to, show how you have came to your beliefs and how the Jewish, beyond a shadow of a doubt have been behind the tampering of history.

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[–] blackguard19 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Most people's perceptions of the Holocaust come from Hollywood movies like Schindler's List which is directed and produced by a Jew. That's just one significant example of many.

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[–] moneymonkeytoilet 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

It's really weird to me seeing pictures from that time. Does anyone else get this?: It's like you can actually sense the gravity of what is happening in the picture. And what you're sensing somehow feels more real than present day.

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[–] BannedFromVoat_wtf 3 points 9 points (+12|-3) ago 

We need a new Hitler.

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[–] TAThatBoomerang 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No. You don't. You need better people. Hitler would have been powerless without the active support of his people. National Socialism was a movement, not just something people voted on. As long as whitey keeps on depending on people like Trump or imaginary future Hitlers, you will always be controlled by the establishment. YOU need to be the hero. Your neighbors, your friends, your family. You need to be the hero, not some dude who's going to do everything for you.

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[–] BannedFromVoat_wtf 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Shit nigga you woke af

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[–] ShineShooter 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I need a Pinochet!

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[–] L3D 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I wonder how many of those in the photograph died during the war.

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[–] extreme_unction 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You could crosspost this nicely to /v/artdeco.

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