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[–] CombustibLemons 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago 

Short Answer: No.

Long Answer: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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[–] ISylaSI 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Best Answer: FUCK NOOOOOO

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[–] dualplains [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hahah Yeah, this is my thinking as well, but I want to be able to provide reasons. My friend is going to have to go a few rounds with her daughter on why not, so I'd like to load her up with ammo.

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[–] professionaldoctor 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Number 1 rule of choosing a PC gaming rig: if there's no outstanding reason you need portable gaming, just build a desktop. If she's going off to college she'd be better off splitting the budget between a small, cheap netbook/laptop/convertible tablet for notetaking in class, and parts for building her own desktop.

The reasons for this are pretty straightforward:

  1. The desktop will have drastically better performance at a lower cost
  2. The desktop will be more "futureproofed" than the laptop, and will retain its value longer
  3. Gaming laptops tend to be heavy and very loud, meaning it's impractical for taking to class or the library

If she absolutely needs a gaming laptop, I would not recommend buying Alienware unless your friend has lots of money to throw around and doesn't mind spending more just for all the little bells and whistles. Alienware laptops definitely look nice and can feel sturdy, but they are far from competitively priced. There are plenty of cheaper alternatives from other brands that will perform just as well for less money.

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[–] thewanderingway 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Alienware is overpriced, and mostly you're paying for the brandname. If she wants to go into the coding side of things and you want to get a decent machine for your buck, Lenovo's are pretty decent. Yeah they had that Malware issue a while back but they've since fixed that and my Z40 is great when I want to do work away from my desktop. I bought the low end z40 on sale (i3, nvidia 850m, 4gb ram) and it runs Unity and Maya just fine.

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[–] CombustibLemons 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They spend a lot of money on R&D and the lighting. Instead I would buy something like these. It's probably about the same price for something a lot better.

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[–] FourNominalCents 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In addition to ASUS, which /u/CombustibleLemons recommended, MSI makes their own laptops as well. They are also fairly reasonable for the performance.

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[–] zekio 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

Don't buy an Alienware laptop, if you want something worth your money, It is like buying a mac, you pay primarily for the design and visuals.

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[–] Whothat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

With the same specs, what brand do you recommend ?

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[–] zekio 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The brand I would recommend is sadly only available in my country, but I'm sure you can find a good laptop with a quad-core i5 and at least 8gb ram and an SSD for a price much lower than an alienware

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[–] psymin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Alienware is way better than Mac :P .. but I do agree with you for the most part (one big exception)

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[–] escape 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I dunno. My MacBook pro is the best laptop I've ever used. The main reason is the 2880x1800 17 inch monitor. The 512GB SSD doesn't hurt either. Nor does the 16GB ram. The dedicated 750M makes gaming on low-med settings at 1080p doable with 40-50 FPS. I can run WoW on ultra 1080p and get a solid 60FPS. Of course no one buys a MacBook for gaming. I have mine for web development and programming. However the fact that it does run games decently is a perk. I'll always game seriously from my desktop with i7 4770k, 16GB ram, GTX 980 but if I want to lay in bed and game, it's not a bad choice.

People who claim Macs are just for design and visuals have never used a Mac. Outside of gaming, they're the best choice for most other things. For development it's a no brainer.

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[–] nativevlan 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think he was referring to the performance for $$$ spent. Sure Apple puts together platforms with respectable specs, but you can get the same thing (without the OS, unless you want to run a hackintosh) with lower aesthetics for less money.

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[–] Kakatoru 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

'Cept alienware is actually ugly

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[–] NateThomas1979 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Um... No no and NO.

Alienware was bought out by Dell in 2006 and even before then they were an overpriced company.

If you give me a budget I can point you to a few different choices for her needs. The one KEY point more than anything is get a laptop with a separate video card.

If she is interested in game development, then she needs to look to a higher end model, specifically one designed to play games well, because if it can do that well, she will be able to see her projects rather than have to use the college computers to try to render her projects.

Here for example is an upgrade on a lot of levels compared to its counterpart the Alienware 13.

Something to consider is to make sure that the laptop you want is priced correctly. Going on sites and seeing that the Alienware 17 is only 1499 is confusing when you look to see that that is before all the bells and whistles are added. Make sure you have the laptop specifications that you are looking for to compare or else you might not be doing yourself a favor.

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[–] zekio 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Here i would recommend not getting a 4k display simply because the Power drain and performance will be wasted without that much gain.

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[–] NateThomas1979 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

So true, this was just the first example of how Alienware's tend to be 100-300 dollars more at minimum simply because of the name recognition.

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[–] dualplains [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Even if it's on an external monitor?

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[–] MasterBillyQuizboy 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Edit: /u/Helios has just pointed out to me that the ASUS R.O.G. Laptops will be much more worth your time and money. I completely forgot they even existed. Just goes to show how much I pay attention to mobile PC gaming. Kek

Thanks, Helios. Good save.

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[–] Skeletor 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

A Friend of mine over seas got one, He has been in love with it for the past 6'ish months.

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[–] MasterBillyQuizboy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

OH YEAHHH. I totally forgot about the ASUS R.O.G. Laptops...Lol, thanks for fixing my suggestion. Going to edit my original post to point to your comment.

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[–] nikolaiii 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You don't need a powerful computer for CS (even game programming) imho I would go for 500 -700 dollar laptop preferably samsung, dell, lenovo or asus. STAY AWAY FROM acer and HP. Look for one with a long battery life and a 1080p screen. Gaming laptops are also pretty annoying/embarrassing especially when they sound like jet taking off during a lecture. It would be more cost effective to buy a cheap laptop AND build a powerful desktop.

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[–] dualplains [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Gaming laptops are also pretty annoying/embarrassing especially when they sound like jet taking off during a lecture

That's a REALLY good point I hadn't thought of.

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[–] Whizwicky 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I can confirm this. In college I took a class in the interative media department (game design) and alot of the freshmen had gaming laptops that had fat batteries that stuck out and fans that were almost as loud as a shop-vac.

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[–] TuxedoMan 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

MSI has been making some amazing laptops recently, definitely worth the money on those. Unfortunately alienware as the hardware is decent is super overpriced. My actual recommendation would be to build your own desktop tower, which is the cheapest in comparison to graphical and cpu power. There's plenty of guides around and lots of room for customizations.

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[–] dualplains [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

MSI has been making some amazing laptops recently

I was kind of leaning in MSI's direction.

My actual recommendation would be to build your own desktop tower, which is the cheapest in comparison to graphical and cpu power.

If you'll read the post you'll see that this is for a friend's daughter going into college. If this were just for her dorm room, I'd build her a nice machine for cheap, but she needs something to take to class.

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[–] GoddammitMrNoodle 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Be warned, MSI's quality is crap. Check the reviews. I, unfortunately, did not and suffice to say never fucking again.

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[–] catsoup 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I will never buy another MSI laptop again after having the hinge on mine break. Only had it a couple years. I thought I was just me, but if you look online you can see many, many problems with MSI hinges. My model is MSI 640 GT / MSI-1656 -- if you google that model + hinge, you will see tons of similar cases. I just don't trust them now because of this.

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[–] TuxedoMan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

that was the point of recently. they did have their share of problems off release but i haven't hard much bad recently.

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[–] Wolfs_claw 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Generally no, but Dell is clumsy and sometimes has big price mistakes on Alienware systems making them an actual good deal.

If you want to wait for Dell to make a mistake, set up a keyword alert on Slickdeals for "Alienware" and you'll be notified the next time Dell screws up the prices. It happens at least once or twice a year, usually near quarter end when every business unit is desperate for good sales numbers and someone messes up the SKUs.

If you don't want to wait for Dell to make a price mistake, Origin PC makes the best overall gaming laptops in my opinion, and MSI generally has very good "bang for the buck" gaming laptops year round, including the bonkers Titan.

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[–] Jmarley99 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

no

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