Please comment - when I have more time I will probably start going through the v/news submissions from the past week pinging v/news users to give their opinion. Most don't pay attention to this sort of thing and when they see "deleted by moderator" they assume spam. I truly wonder what they would think. I know you would never put a sticky on "Rule #1" up because the user feedback would prevent you from doing what you really want to do here. I fully expect to be banned for this submission because I imagine this tries your patience and as a user I should know my place, right? That seemed to be @exisredditus' attitude and he did say his mod teams were in agreement with what he was doing.
So please address the following @AmyAcker @blahblahgabor @ForksandGuys @Typo
This comment was deleted: https://slimgr.com/image/EsC by a mod @blahblahgabor for breaking v/news "Rule # 1", which seems to be a rule designed to make v/news a "safe space".
But why weren't these comments also deleted?
( https://slimgr.com/image/Es4 ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/528383/2521997 - namecalling Rule #1 violation
( https://slimgr.com/image/Es1 ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/528383/2521986 - namecalling Rule #1 violation
( https://slimgr.com/image/EsO ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/529205/2524484 - namecalling Rule #1 violation
( https://slimgr.com/image/Esv ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/528756/2523844 - namecalling Rule #1 violation
( https://slimgr.com/image/Esy ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/528634/2522504 - namecalling Rule # 1 violation
( https://slimgr.com/image/EsM ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/528384/2523432 - Rule #1 Violation
These are just within the last 6 hours. The v/news mods should either delete them ALL or admit that they want to selectively interpret the rules. And just so everyone is clear what we are talking about, THIS is where it is heading:
( https://slimgr.com/image/Esj ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/528383/2519677 - Post broke NO rules except a word that triggered blahblahgabor and here he is bullying a user into self-censorship
Here is an instance of blahblahgabor warning someone in a thread, because evidently some get warned and some get deleted, it's up to him because he makes the rules!
( https://slimgr.com/image/Esx ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/527934/2517142
Here is an instance of where he tells a user to just ignore it (presumably because he is ok with a thread where people are criticizing homosexuals and liberals, but not in one where they are criticizing black people - I can't be sure, all this selective enforcement of the rules is making my head hurt!) ( https://slimgr.com/image/Esi ) https://voat.co/v/news/comments/527934/2519453
This is how the bullshit on reddit started.
1) Pick "offensive" speech and allow moderators to delete it.
2) Of course they can't get ALL of it, right? And there are times that we want them to use their own discretion, right? So we start to accept some degree of subjectivity
3) Subjectivity from step 2 leads to an expansion of a vague rule like "Be Civil" and
Be Civil: Arguing is fine as we all have differing opinions, but please respect each other. No name calling, stalking, etc.
(notice the "etc."? That is there so they can add things later)
4) Since the mods already have the authority to enforce the rule with deletions/bans, the expansion is enforced the same way (again using the selectivity/subjectivity from step 2)
5) Soon what the mods agree with is ok and what they don't isn't. This has led to a lot of self-censorship and like-minded people staying on while "dissenters" are deleted/banned into silence. They subtly turn users into informers:
If you see spam or a comment that violates the rules, hit the report button. If you see a post that needs to be removed/flaired, please alert the mods via PM or ping us (using @[mod's username]).
(It is questionable why they can't urge the users to vote on the content the way this sub would be designed, but that would challenge the narrative that the users NEED the moderators to keep the content "safe")
6) All pretense of "rules" disappear and the mods (with the assistance of their snitches) simply delete and ban whom they will and no one questions it.
In this instance v/news is in the banner as a default and is listed here: https://voat.co/subverses so that all new users are subliminally urged to subscribe and they would not bother looking for another. v/truenews was made by a user for unmoderated news and I think it died out for lack of content and because the v/news mods refuse to link to other news subs in their sidebar (unlike most of the other "defaults").
Is there something I am missing?