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[–] SecureRhino 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

And there you see why the word GMO makes no sense. Even normal evolution is genetic modification, so every living organism is a "Genetically Modified Organism". A better term would be "Genetically Engineered Organism".

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[–] 33degree 4 points 8 points (+12|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Bullshit. No one spliced our genes together. This is just a vague and terrible analogy to make GMOs seem more "natural".

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[–] casper [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Its not an analogy, the genes are there to look at for yourself. There really are plant genes in people. No one is saying people did the splicing, nature did it.

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[–] 33degree 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

No one is saying people did the splicing, nature did it.

So then it's different than the current techniques used to create GMOs right?

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[–] Oire 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If we want to be clear, it's best not to attribute horizontal gene transfer to an act of nature. It happened. Without particular purpose or goal, and was then not so detrimental as to kill everything it happened to.

Since, yanno, that's how evolution and everything works. Sometimes happy accidents.

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[–] Saufsoldat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It probably did. Saying anything more at this point would be unscientific.

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[–] 84626433832795028841 11 points 2 points (+13|-11) ago 

Oh look another GMO shill.

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[–] casper [S] 6 points 5 points (+11|-6) ago  (edited ago)

A member for three days with 0 SCP accusing someone of being a shill? Laughable. Perhaps you are a shill for the 40 billion USD organic industry?

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[–] SecureRhino 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

A member who got nearly all his SCP from GMO posts accusing somebody of being a shill because he has 0 SCP? That is laughable.

(for the record: I'm not convinced you are a shill either)

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[–] 84626433832795028841 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago 

Your submission is not even news, the source is from March, shill confirmed.

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[–] Wmb102er 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

How does this sort of natural gene splicing affect evolutionary theory? Not just series of mutations after all?

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[–] casper [S] 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There are two kinds of genetic inheritance. The kind you are likely most familiar with is "vertical gene transfer" aka genes from parents to children. The other kind is called "horizontal gene transfer" and recently we've come to understand that it is pervasive, constant, and has been happening since life began. The understanding of horizontal gene transfer has helped to explain many organisms which would have otherwise been unexplainable by evolutionary theory that only incorporated vertical gene transfer. Mutation is still a big part of evolution, it is just not the only part. As a side note, these natural horizontal gene transfer mechanisms are the same mechanisms used to enable genetic engineering.

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[–] Fuckery 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My brain is scattered around the room.

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[–] Fox_Tango 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I think it's interesting. Recently a single cell organism was discovered with a complex eye that featured a lens retina etc. it would make sense that an early ancestor to complex organisms could alter their Dna based on things that it ate.

If we don't understand this sort of mechanic in our anatomy it's crazy to think gene specialist splicing our food are not considering how it may react with this process. I doubt the process is always a positive absorbtion.

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[–] casper [S] 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago  (edited ago)

it's crazy to think gene specialist splicing our food are not considering how it may react with this process.

What makes you think they are not considering it?

I doubt the process is always a positive absorbtion.

No, but nothing in evolution or breeding is. Down's syndrome and Tay-Sachs disease for instance. The fit survive.

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[–] casper [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

They'll need to do a bit more research to work out how it happens in mammals for instance, but it is well know that retroviruses and herpesviruses can infect gameteogonial cells. These kinds of viruses integrate thier genomes into the host cell genome. If that host cell happens to be one of the cells that makes sperm or eggs, then a horizontal gene transfer event has just happened, and every descendant human from that infected human will have that viral genome in every copy of all of their cells forever. There are other passive ways that cells naturally take up naked DNA from their environment too. Its been shown that naked DNA can stick to sperm and when said sperm fertilize an egg, that hitchhiking DNA will also integrate into the genome of the resulting being.

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is where we discover we are all The Thing, freak out, divide up and scuttle away as lobster legged head-spiders.