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[–]Nutt00713 points
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I got a question. Would you eat genetically modified food if it were produced by some other company? Monsanto is a pretty shitty company, but you do realize you are against science if you're against all GMO's period. Criticize Monsanto all you want, just don't be ignorant of basic biology.
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Didn't the Monsato lobbyist refuse to drink it after claiming it to be safe. The thing is people from that company will advocate for their products but will not apply it to their lives. I'm sure they eat non-GMO at home.
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The Monsanto shills on Reddit, like /u/adamwho went absolutely batshit trying to defend this guy, claiming that anyone who called him out is "anti-science" for telling him to back up his claims.
Beautiful! It is sad that reddit has become nothing more than an informational whorehouse. But, we must beware! Similar perils await Voat if it continues to grow in popularity at such a rate as it has been the past few weeks.
Fuck Monsanto, but it's ironic that the advertising on behalf of the plaintiff here is considerably more "false". Glyphosate (Roundup) targets ONE enzyme, namely 5-enolpyruvylshikimate-3-phosphate (EPSP) synthase, found in plants and bacteria (including human gut flora). Not sure where they're getting the value of "about 300" enzymes. Not to mention the dramatization of enzyme inhibition as "killing" a non-living molecule.
I'm not defending Monsanto, and I definitely hope they lose. But it's ironic that the plaintiff feels the need to use the same methods they're criticizing to accomplish that. Scientific accuracy and honesty is important despite your agenda.
They are exaggerating, Monsanto is trying to make the misleading ad into something bigger than it is, probobly saying that if one enzyme is safe, then all are from the poison. either way though it IS misleading because that enzyme if found were they claim it not to be.
I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't it be some sort of ethics violation or (if you are right and they die) manslaughter? Like, "Here, if this gun isn't loaded, put it to your head and pull the trigger." If you're asserting that something is dangerous and dare someone to drink/consume/use it, I would think that'd be a case of "Hey, you might be right, don't do this or you'll have blood on your hands" thingie. shrugs
I can foresee local aquaponics to be the solution to this sort of problem. I'm already doing a small system at home. Have almost no problems with pests and it's all organic and fresh.
It's one thing doing it at home as a hobby project, but it's another to do this on an industrial scale. It's low effort to throw seed in the dirt and harvest once a year. Especially if you are growing on thousands of acres to feed entire states.
I think this is something that anyone can do at home on a family-basis that does not require large industries to distribute food (although that is already happening). Aquaponics allows for harvest many more times than once a year, and allows for growing plants indoors. Where I'm from at least, it gets cold and snowy out and I only have the summer to do this outdoors. I've been thinking of doing this indoors but I have to consider the costs of indoor grow lighting, and the space required. My family also isn't keen on letting me do this indoors even though I've proven to them that this thing works. It's going to take some progress in the collective mindset for people to take this sort of responsibility to grow their own, but I think it's inevitable and food security is always important.
Glyphosate was declared a Class 2A carcinogen, which is in the same category as being a hairdresser or shift worker with a disrupted circadian cycle. Not that it isn't dangerous, but just putting things in perspective.
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says right there at the top this article is outdated. It is the new info just came out within the last year from the World Health Organization that I'm referencing.
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[–] rspix000 9 points 83 points 92 points (+92|-9) ago
How refreshing not to see a bunch of Moonsanto trolls it this thread.
[–] Boyakasha 11 points 53 points 64 points (+64|-11) ago
Yeah, clearly if you're against eating this bullshit, you're "against science".
[–] arrggg [S] 6 points 65 points 71 points (+71|-6) ago
Yeah, That is the absolutely insane thing, they recommend spraying this poison on crops 3 days before harvest.
Monsanto Preharvest Staging Guide Pg 32
No wonder everyone is "allergic" to wheat now.
[–] Nutt007 13 points 38 points 51 points (+51|-13) ago
I got a question. Would you eat genetically modified food if it were produced by some other company? Monsanto is a pretty shitty company, but you do realize you are against science if you're against all GMO's period. Criticize Monsanto all you want, just don't be ignorant of basic biology.
[–] pikaboy259 2 points 2 points 4 points (+4|-2) ago
To be fair, do you have peer-reviewed scientific sources that indicate a safety concern about eating GMO? To my knowledge, there are none.
[–] cAMP 5 points 39 points 44 points (+44|-5) ago (edited ago)
Didn't the Monsato lobbyist refuse to drink it after claiming it to be safe. The thing is people from that company will advocate for their products but will not apply it to their lives. I'm sure they eat non-GMO at home.
[–] arrggg [S] 2 points 42 points 44 points (+44|-2) ago
That was funny. He was caught bullshitting and freaks out. Lying Monsanto Rep
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[–] fluffingtonthefifth 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
I don't know about the employees' homes, but the company's cafeteria uses only organic produce.
[–] Sorahzahd 1 points 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
The Monsanto shills on Reddit, like /u/adamwho went absolutely batshit trying to defend this guy, claiming that anyone who called him out is "anti-science" for telling him to back up his claims.
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[–] arrggg [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
It is crazy. Look at how many are taking the time to defend a company that is literally poisoning them for a profit.
[–] catfaceddog 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Beautiful! It is sad that reddit has become nothing more than an informational whorehouse. But, we must beware! Similar perils await Voat if it continues to grow in popularity at such a rate as it has been the past few weeks.
[–] YikYak 4 points 54 points 58 points (+58|-4) ago
Good, fuck monsanto, their corn, and the roundup bottle they rode in on.
[–] Texan 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago
Hell ya.
[–] Silvermcfly17 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago
FTFY
[–] shutupdonny 4 points 36 points 40 points (+40|-4) ago
Fuck Monsanto, but it's ironic that the advertising on behalf of the plaintiff here is considerably more "false". Glyphosate (Roundup) targets ONE enzyme, namely 5-enolpyruvylshikimate-3-phosphate (EPSP) synthase, found in plants and bacteria (including human gut flora). Not sure where they're getting the value of "about 300" enzymes. Not to mention the dramatization of enzyme inhibition as "killing" a non-living molecule.
[–] arrggg [S] 6 points 11 points 17 points (+17|-6) ago
So you agree the poison kills enzymes found in human gut flora, but then defend monsanto over technical claims that will be discussed in court.
Your username is appropriate.
[–] shutupdonny 4 points 29 points 33 points (+33|-4) ago
I'm not defending Monsanto, and I definitely hope they lose. But it's ironic that the plaintiff feels the need to use the same methods they're criticizing to accomplish that. Scientific accuracy and honesty is important despite your agenda.
[–] 1smartass 10 points 2 points 12 points (+12|-10) ago
Would you agree that many foods you eat everyday contain compounds that are far more toxic than glyphosate?
You actually didn't know that, did you?
Bet you didn't know salt is more toxic than glyphosate, but you eat that too.
[–] darkrit3 1 points 1 points 2 points (+2|-1) ago
They are exaggerating, Monsanto is trying to make the misleading ad into something bigger than it is, probobly saying that if one enzyme is safe, then all are from the poison. either way though it IS misleading because that enzyme if found were they claim it not to be.
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[–] wishitwas 3 points 14 points 17 points (+17|-3) ago
The active ingredient in Roundup, glyphosate, is also known to cause birth defects and the public was/is actively being kept in the dark about it.
[–] chelfyn 1 points 6 points 7 points (+7|-1) ago
you should link to original sources, not known biased sites like truth-out and earthopensource.
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[–] ClairityDX 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago
I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't it be some sort of ethics violation or (if you are right and they die) manslaughter? Like, "Here, if this gun isn't loaded, put it to your head and pull the trigger." If you're asserting that something is dangerous and dare someone to drink/consume/use it, I would think that'd be a case of "Hey, you might be right, don't do this or you'll have blood on your hands" thingie. shrugs
[–] casper 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago
Monsanto doesn't make neonicotinoids.
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[–] MMKH 1 points 8 points 9 points (+9|-1) ago
I can foresee local aquaponics to be the solution to this sort of problem. I'm already doing a small system at home. Have almost no problems with pests and it's all organic and fresh.
[–] storm69 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
You're growing weed, aren't you? ;)
[–] MMKH 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
Lol, nah just some tomatoes, broccoli and lettuce. Maybe I should post some pics to /v/aquaponics, there isn't much there right now.
[–] arrggg [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Cool. That is a great way to avoid poisons on your food.
Have you seen Foodrising.org and their free aquaponics plans?
[–] MMKH 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago
Haven't heard before but thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
[–] kirkis 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago
It's one thing doing it at home as a hobby project, but it's another to do this on an industrial scale. It's low effort to throw seed in the dirt and harvest once a year. Especially if you are growing on thousands of acres to feed entire states.
[–] MMKH 0 points 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago
I think this is something that anyone can do at home on a family-basis that does not require large industries to distribute food (although that is already happening). Aquaponics allows for harvest many more times than once a year, and allows for growing plants indoors. Where I'm from at least, it gets cold and snowy out and I only have the summer to do this outdoors. I've been thinking of doing this indoors but I have to consider the costs of indoor grow lighting, and the space required. My family also isn't keen on letting me do this indoors even though I've proven to them that this thing works. It's going to take some progress in the collective mindset for people to take this sort of responsibility to grow their own, but I think it's inevitable and food security is always important.
[–] ThisIsMe 2 points 8 points 10 points (+10|-2) ago (edited ago)
"I know it says poison, but trust me, it's basically like candy... basically."
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[–] Ashra 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Antifreeze? It is sweet, so I hear.
+also aspartame and shit that are known carcinogens
[–] bannana 1 points 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
glyphosate has just been found by WHO to have a high probability to cause cancer and other diseases. good timing for this lawsuit.
[–] WhaleMan 3 points 4 points 7 points (+7|-3) ago
Glyphosate was declared a Class 2A carcinogen, which is in the same category as being a hairdresser or shift worker with a disrupted circadian cycle. Not that it isn't dangerous, but just putting things in perspective.
[–] bannana 0 points 1 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
says right there at the top this article is outdated. It is the new info just came out within the last year from the World Health Organization that I'm referencing.