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[–] sapo 0 points 45 points (+45|-0) ago 

holy hell son, use a period.

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[–] killerjavi98 [S] 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

sorry for the long runon its just how i like to type

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[–] BeerMan 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

Dude seriously edit that post and make some paragraphs. I am trying to read it but my eyes :( It's hard to follow your side of the story . Please

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[–] Atko 1 point 22 points (+23|-1) ago 

Hey dude. Take a chill pill. Condense your suggestion to 1 sentence and post it to /v/ideasforvoat. There is no way in hell that I am reading this wall of text. Sorry :)

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[–] killerjavi98 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Sounds reasonable

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[–] Mumberthrax 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

If we learned anything from the HB Gary incident, it is that astroturfing is a very real thing, and if voat becomes more popular it will definitely happen here. As killerjavi has demonstrated, the barrier to entry is not high at all, and only stops only the most lazy and stupid of spammers/unidans.

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[–] catechumen 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What's the HB Gary incident? inquiring minds need to know.

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[–] Mumberthrax 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

you can just do a search online for it and find articles. here are a few i got on duckduckgo searching for "hb gary incident" and "hb gary astroturf":

http://boingboing.net/2011/02/18/hbgarys-high-volume.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/17/945768/-UPDATED-The-HB-Gary-Email-That-Should-Concern-Us-All

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/18/298081/hbgary-federal-us-chamber-persona/

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/02/anonymous-speaks-the-inside-story-of-the-hbgary-hack/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/220209/lessons_learned_thanks_to_hbgary_and_anonymous.html

the short version of the story is that a group of hackers working under the label "anonymous" acquired internal emails from a company called HBGary Federal that revealed to the public that they basically create and manage sockpuppet accounts and solutions for governments and companies that want to control public opinion through black propaganda online, and that they had engaged in business agreements with the US federal government relating to this solution. This event is when "astroturf" became a sort of household term. Previously accounts like this were just called propagandists or shills most of the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

edit: to put it simply, HB Gary was one company that basically did vote brigades and comments online in a way that made it look like a LOT of people felt a particular way about this or that issue or policy or content when they really didn't. The leak verified that it was a real thing and that the federal government was using it. It proves that its not just a nutcase "conspiracy theory", and that social media sites that want everyone to be on a level playing field MUST try to combat it.

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[–] machinima 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

is there any solutions in that hb gary incident if so make a post so i can add it to this post still waiting on atko to respond though

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[–] catechumen ago 

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[–] LizardBreathe 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

OP has been here for 13 days and has these stats, but of course, doesn't bother to look around and find the correct sub, and apparently being concise is right out.

We really need to figure out a way to get folk to use their heads. Yes, I know it is crazy and impossible.

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[–] pornhub_katie 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Grammar aside I think op makes a good point. There is room for improvement to prevent misuse.

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[–] killerjavi98 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

whats an op I know people say it alot but what does it mean? Honest question bro

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[–] pornhub_katie 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

it's "original poster" so the person who started the conversation. in this instance, you.

[–] [deleted] ago 

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[–] foshizzle ago 

OP= Original Poster

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[–] catechumen ago 

Original poster

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[–] BeerMan 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The point atko was trying to make with regards to the dummy accounts was that the accounts where similar, he just used javi1,2 and 3 as examples. like you said the accounts are avikiller98,killerjavi98,killerjavi and so forth.

My only question is, and yes I have read the post. Why do this ? ie the mutli accounts and upvoating things ? as far as I am aware it's not a popularity contest. I am really trying to rack my brains in why people do these things

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[–] catechumen ago  (edited ago)

Censorship, Activism, Trolling, & Fame/Infamy

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[–] HP48GX 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

censorship, activism, trolling, fame, infamy, shilling

catfish.

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[–] kingpin57 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

well first i did it for my youtube video then after that more of an experiment than popularity because theres good fame and bad fame and i dont want either too much responsiblity

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[–] AnalogRocks 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My God son use some punctuation! You post is damn near unreadable even after you added in the paragraphs. I can't imagine what it looked like before you did that. Also I wondered why I kept seeing that video on the front page lol. That said voat is still a newborn and things like this are still being ironed out.

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[–] flyawayhigh 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I feel like I'm reading a pastebin.Use paragraphs!


Damn, these comments flew in fast. There were zero comments when I started reading and posted this. Or maybe I'm just slow.

OMG everybody said the same thing! The hivemind struck!

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[–] goku572 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

yup again I apologize for not making it organized

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[–] killerjavi98 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

You think that was fast remember gangnam style i remember when it was 1 million views on youtube its over 1 billion now

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[–] flyawayhigh ago 

Open condom stahhhh!

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