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[–] Empire_of_the_mind 10 points -6 points (+4|-10) ago 

Fuck those ranchers - it's not their land, just like it's not their water, or anything else. Public means public, and the federal government is how the public administrates itself. Sorry your subsidy got canceled - guess you have to get a job like the rest of us.

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[–] 4073990? 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

I can think of no better use for "public" land than to grow food for the nations people....

A Rancher pays to use blm land, those fees get passed down to the end user no big deal. This isn't about fees or free shit.

This is about government overstep. Many if not all of these ranches were purchased decades before the blm even existed. They have grazing rights written into their deeds. Just because the government owns the land doesn't mean they own the grazing rights. Just like just because you own land doesn't mean you own the mineral rights to it.

Now add on top the government doing things like overriding state charges like what they did with the Hammond's and all the other things they have done to force all those around the Hammond's to sell. You can start to see why they are willing to die for it. This isn't about profit margins this is about a corrupt federal government putting it's fingers where they don't belong.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind ago 

"grazing" is often quite destructive and it's not as though it's the natural state of the land for a private person making tons of money raising expensive livestock to have free reign over wild land. I contend that it's absolutely within the rights of the federal government to do so and if people want to take their case to the courts they can do so.

They did, and they fucking lost, because only other ranchers agree that this is the only appropriate use of the land. this is pure greed for a few well-off families to get rich and fuck everyone else. Everyone else, in the form of the federal government, just told THEM to fuck off. And they threw a fit like a bunch of emotionally retarded toddlers and now they get to go to jail.

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[–] jankonyomama 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

The Fed just fucked up. Get ready. The shit ain't ending in Burns.

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[–] Maxcactus 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I agree. These people are just taking land belonging to the American people. I go to Washington DC pretty often and would like to park my car in the mall so I don't have to ride the metro or pay to park. My occupation would last about as long as the cops and tow truck took to get there. If Nevada wants those lands they should petition congress for a change in the ownership. If the state wants to sell it off or pass it out then good. But just having people go in and decide to take it is wrong.