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[–] PotatoFarm 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

This is a very good argument, the original policies may have created a ridiculous situation where it's not longer possible, without some major efforts, to revert to a more reasonable position.

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[–] 3963843? [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Agree with lots of your points, but will blame a tiny minority for facilitating around the Germans, will blame an even smaller minority for not stepping on the brakes.

It will affect people negatively, but it is affecting people negatively. The ones paying. We spent 1500 years improving our societies, only to receive millions from square one. Our future has become a race towards a standard of living low enough to in itself stop further immigration.

It's time to be as inventive sending people back. Send future to the past, not past to the future. Export solutions, don't import problems. That should be the motto. They can hold Merkel, Juncker and their ilk personally accountable, as I do, but most Germans are only guilty of falling for propaganda from their media and politicians and the 2-sided coin of heart/naiveté.

The refugee immigrants here, they are needed in their countries. Their influence could be the best thing to ever happen, as they hopefully miss some of the solutions they got accustomed to in Europe. It's where their skills are in demand. It's where there is no culture clash, they might even be progressive. It's where western aid goes 10-100 times further.

The unintegrate-able must return to where integration isn't an issue. Everything else is a patch.

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[–] KingMortales ago 

I keep seeing this sentiment here, but perhaps the same individuals that are getting raped and murdered aren't the ones creating the situation. I have yet to hear about Merkel getting raped, but of the hundreds, maybe thousands, that are suffering, at least a few must have been opposed to the immigration beforehand.

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[–] Toto-che-handala 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago  (edited ago)

You mean like how africa,india, and the western hemisphere took in millions of european poor and those fine representatives($ seekers, faux christian friars,gov. reps,hordes of soldiers who were quite gentlemanly, kind in dealing with the natives) of these plague of locust-like empires looking to rape, pillage,steal and take back home while the australians had the luck of receiving british criminals on her shores? Do you know what happened to the native population? Do you know the word; karma? Or do you just mean the 'recent' result of euro/usa decades of interference,terrorism,violence that it has been exporting to the middle east and this is the inevitable predictable blowback? Duh? WTF? You wreck these ancient places and then wonder why the remnants want to leave? Are you than ignorant,stupid or you just don't care what your gov. does in places that has stuff it wants? Open a friggin history book for christ's sake. Notice an MO? Duh? Neo-colonialism? Imperialism? Neo-liberalism?

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