Archived School textbook sales leader says Common Core is 'all about the money' (dailymail.co.uk)
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Archived School textbook sales leader says Common Core is 'all about the money' (dailymail.co.uk)
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[–] Totenglocke 1 point 33 points 34 points (+34|-1) ago
It's also about ensuring that kids are never educated and thus will be forced to depend on the government to provide for them. Have you seen their bullshit for math? In only a few years, we'll have millions of new college freshmen who can't do basic math.
[–] Rummel 1 point 20 points 21 points (+21|-1) ago
We're already there. Look at the test scores across the country for black high schoolers and then realize that they get to go to college for free
[–] BentAxel 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Yeaaa. Add to the college grads that look at desktop computers sideways like a puppy when you make a funny noise. Life is gonna be FUN! /s.
[–] sp00kygh0st 1 point 13 points 14 points (+14|-1) ago
Yuup, it was created to fight "white privilege" by making it impossible for parents to help their kids with homework
[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Also become dependent on cheap, h1b foreigners.
[–] corduroy 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Hyperbole. There are plenty of HS kids in Calc 2 and 3. Plenty of kids who are educated, more than when I grew up. It's just that Common Core is a money grab - that's the problem.
[–] peacegnome ago
Calc 3 is rarely taught at the HS level (is it ever?). It shouldn't be this way, but schools focus on humanities over all.
[–] Totenglocke ago
You could have just said "No, I haven't seen the Common Core math". If you had, you'd understand. There's a reason people with even advanced degrees in math / statistics look at it and say "What the fuck....how are you supposed to do that?".
[–] 3879726? 1 point 16 points 17 points (+17|-1) ago
And equalization. From the math curriculum I have seen it seems to be filled with a lot of crap designed to make math harder for people who are good at math.
[–] AssaultMonkey 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Hey, I'm married to a teacher who is required to use common core and i feel i can add to the conversation. Largely, the law states goals for teaching while actual implementation and methodology is from teaching systems purchased by the school district. These systems can include textbooks, lesson guidance (what to teach and how), homework, and whatever else a teacher might need. These systems are typically created by private groups who may or may not have political connections.
I've spoken with her about their method for teaching math and she agrees that it is geared towards kids who are not good at math. The thinking goes something like this: If you're good at math, you'll get it. If you're not good at math, this will help you think about it in a new way. Now not all countries approach teaching in the same way, and results vary, so this is not necessarily a bad thing.
I think of these changes half as a money grab and half as policy makers experimenting with how we teach our kids.
[–] Synisterintent 1 point 6 points 7 points (+7|-1) ago
Its geared towards a generation that will be asking if you want fries with that.
[–] cointelpro_shill 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Maybe people who make the textbooks are doing a bad job on purpose
[–] peacegnome 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
At this point i feel there is no maybe about it. It might not be nefarious though, they might look at metrics like what decreases the spread in students (makes the smart kids dumber, but raises the dumb kids) or something equally stupid.
[–] Bobsentme ago
The only thing I know about the math curriculum is that it appears to emphasize the base 10 system. Is there more to it???
[–] rumathlete_1 5 points 11 points 16 points (+16|-5) ago
B.S in Mathematics here. Common Core, to Math is like Astrology to Astronomy. And just like the gypsies that practiced astrology in the 1930's and 1940's in Germany, Common Core teachers should also be rounded up and gassed.
[–] BentAxel 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Functional Idiot here. Good to know samrt popples thunk the saame.
[–] SpaceLizard 6 points -1 points 5 points (+5|-6) ago (edited ago)
Are you sure you're in the right field? The stuff I've seen bitched about in the common core math section is stuff I figured out how to do in elementary school without ever being taught it. It's basically just rearranging a problem in your head to make it simpler to parse. I could understand if you were upset about the bullshit feminist brainwashing in common core, but this? If it's really like astronomy to you then you might want to look into pursuing a different field...
[–] sp00kygh0st 1 point 6 points 7 points (+7|-1) ago
I have a B.S. in Applied Mathematics and I can confirm that common core math is retarded. This should come as no surprise though because common core was created to fight "white privilege" by making it difficult for parents to help their kids on their homework.
[–] rumathlete_1 2 points 4 points 6 points (+6|-2) ago (edited ago)
there is a video of teachers using common core that show -4=16 since common core allowed them to come up with both answers. they are satan.
[–] bibilibi 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Teachers used to teach the mathematical concepts, and clarified them with examples and small algorithms you could do in your head.
Under common core, teachers teach the examples, and assume that students understand the underlying concept.
This is why common core math is bad. It promotes reciting instead of understanding. It's also why common core maths can promote brainwashing, despite being maths: it discourages thinking.
[–] Pwning4Ever 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago
Commoncore math is impractical. Especially since in the real world, all math is done using computers.
[–] demi_god_dylan 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
High School has taught me how to bullshit. How to bullshit tests and papers, how to bullshit teachers into thinking I like them, how to bullshit my peers into thinking I like them and want there cooperation so I can take advantage of there hard work, etc. That's it. The learning stopped around 6 or seventh grade.
[–] Kar98 [S] 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
And college taught me how get others to do the hard work of bullshitting for me.
[–] demi_god_dylan ago
Exactly, it's not about education its about preparation, preparation for a lifetime of cooperate ass kissing and slacking off, at least that's what it seems to be.
[–] Ghetto_Shitlord 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
It's always been about selling books to these publishers. They're just using common core a s a reason to push them harder. Nothing new happening here that wasn't before.
[–] Thin_White_Duke 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
No shit, Sherlock. There is nothing different about basic math than there was 10...20...100...etc. years ago. I wonder if a lot of districts were getting wise to the new editions being pumped out every year so the powers that be were lobbied into requiring this bullshit.
My future kids are going to have a leg up on these poor souls who don't have parents who know better. Add to it my insistence on teaching them personal finance and they will hopefully have a bright future ahead of them. Help give your kids the help they need, don't let them get frustrated into giving up. Encourage it from a young age and help spur it on through adolescence.
[–] thrus ago
I was taught to memorize some times tables but my dad told me it was a waste with 9s (0-10) as they are so easy to solve 0, 1, and 10 are simple of themselves. for the others they are all 2 digit answers the fist digit is the number -1 the second is 10- the number: take 7, 7-1=6, 10-7=3, result is 63. those two things replace memorizing 8. awkward at first and completely confuses most teachers if you show you work but very effective when you get the hang of it.
[–] Aboresh 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I always remembered that the two digits for the multiples of 9 added up to 9.
[–] Thin_White_Duke 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That's clever. I never had a problem memorizing multiplication. I think we did it in 3rd grade and had to go to 10. I made it up to 15 or 16 because I was the only one done before I decided to just stop. For 9s I just remembered that there is a reverse of that number later on:
9x1 = 09; 9x10 = 90 9x2 = 18; 9x9 = 81 9x3 = 27; 9x8= 72 9x4 = 36; 9x7 = 63 9x5 = 45; 9x6 = 54
Sometimes it really is about finding a pattern.
[–] svipbo ago
You want to know a trick to know the last digit for any times table entry? Take the complement of each number with 10, and the last digit of the product is the same.
For example: 8 X 6. Difficult, huh? But wait: 2 X 4 = 8. This reminds us that the answer is 48.
[–] TheTrigger ago (edited ago)
Hold out your hands, like you're trying to stop a rapist in Cologne. 9x7? Fold down the second finger on your right hand. Number of fingers on left side of folded finger = left digit. Number of fingers on right side = second digit.
This works for all of them.
[–] crankypants15 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Hi. I was in the top 10% of my high school class, and when I took the ACT it was like it was in a mysterious language. There were multiple correct answers, phrasing was confusing, and not at all like the phrasing used in the classroom, and this apparently is continuing. I had to keep in mind to pick the answer they wanted rather than the answer that was right, and I got the top ACT score in my class.
The people that make up these questions are really not acquainted with reality at all, it's a disturbing situation. That's one reason why standardized test publishers are redoing all the ACT and SAT test questions. The questions currently have nothing to do with the real world at all.
Look at some of the pics in the article. Look at the grid/array of numbers. Both arrays have the same count and get the same result, but one array is wrong. How can one result be wrong when it has the exact same count as the other one?
Give a 9th grade Common Core test to these administrators, I bet they won't pass.
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[–] Kar98 [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
You know colleges and lecturer's are getting kickbacks to make students by those damn overpriced textbooks, naturally in their latest annual edition.
[–] TheTrigger ago (edited ago)
Downvoats, really? This guy speaks the truth; even my economics professor blatantly, flat out admitted it. He was cool, though, and used current Canadian copyright law to let us get a booklet he self published that had all the information we needed for ~20% of what it would cost, otherwise.
Good guy; this was almost a decade ago.