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[–] PlasmaDistortion 1 points 71 points (+72|-1) ago 

This article and topic are intentionally trying to make it a race topic when the reality is that blacks commit a higher rate of crimes. The metric needs to be based off of crimes being committed, not a straight white vs. Black issue.

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[–] MayorFasi 1 points 39 points (+40|-1) ago 

Correct. Far more than 50% of those killed as well as those arrested are men. Yet men make up about 50% of the population. Using their logic it proves that police are misandrist.

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[–] pcy623 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

But society is turning increasingly misandric

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[–] 0fsgivin 6 points 3 points (+9|-6) ago  (edited ago)

And really its more of a poverty issue than a race issue. Cops do treat even innocent black males differently, Black males do in fact ACT differently both when guilty OR innocent. So there are some changes and attitudes on both sides that need to be made.

However, reducing the numbers and severity of people in poverty will do far more for this statistic then any town hall meeting about race relations or sensitivity training.

Also eliminating the drug war would do wonders for police relations with both poor whites and blacks.

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[–] fr33europe 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

Poverty... Fuck off with your bullshit.

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[–] lissencarak 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] fr33europe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Came here to say this, you said I better than I ever could. Love voat.

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[–] Devildetails 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Crimes for which death on the spot is the punishment?

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[–] SRS-Airbag 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Resisting arrest. Endangering the lives of others.

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[–] lissencarak 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Any violent or property crimes must be preventable by deadly force. Otherwise you have no right to self-defense or defense of property.

Thankfully, this is still the case in the USA. Most states, at least.

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[–] sp00kygh0st 5 points 33 points (+38|-5) ago 

And society lost nothing of value

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[–] goldurn 6 points 30 points (+36|-6) ago 

Well, niggers commit crimes more than any other race in america, there are more niggers than ever, ergo more niggers are killed by those who enforce the law, duh.

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[–] jigaboojivetribe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'd also like to see a heat map of where these fatal shootings are. I bet the vast majority take place in areas like Chicago and Baltimore where violent crimes and homicides are seeing record numbers.

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[–] dirething 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

considering the disparity in the offender rates these statistics would seem to indicate that cops shoot white people more than they should since they only shot 2.4x as many black people.

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[–] whisky_cat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

around 0.7 at the 95 percent confidence level

While I already understand the disproportion of crime by race - what does 0.7 at 95% mean?

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[–] DankMemesBrokenDream 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That you can say that 70% of the disproportionate amount of killed by police is caused by their higher rates of violent crime, and you can say that with 95% confidence that that is correct.

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[–] AfricanZionSafari 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Again statistics being used to confuse dumb people. White people are still victims of police violence more often then any other race. They hide that fact in the article by "adjusting the numbers by accounting for population."

In other words they are manipulating the numbers to further the phony black lies matter narrative.

Number of people killed by race in 2015:

White - 577

Black - 300

Hispanic/Latino - 193

Other - 27

Asian/Pacific Islander - 24

Native - 13

So on a whole white people are still being killed by police more then any other race.

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[–] edistojim 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

You may also want to add into the totals that of that 1134 killed by police, around 700 of them were armed with a gun. Be nice to list that little statistic. Be curious to also list how many were wanted for previous felony.

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[–] whisky_cat 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

god forbid any context is applied

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[–] Jarmey 5 points -3 points (+2|-5) ago  (edited ago)

Again dumb people who don't have any understanding of statistics should not comment on statistics.

here go learn. https://www.khanacademy.org/math/pre-algebra/rates-and-ratios/ratios_and_proportions/v/introduction-to-ratios-new-hd-version

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[–] peacegnome 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

His understanding of statistics is of about the same amount as that as the professionals at the guardian, so no reason to be such a shitty person about it.

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[–] rspix000 [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Similar style arg against racial quotas. Both sides seem to admit its truth but that does not necessarily answer the policy question completely.

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[–] 0x4F 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

And how many were Rwanda'ed by each other?

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[–] edistojim 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Just to give you an idea: Police killed right at 300 blacks throughout the entire United States, but compared to the Chicago murder rate of around 550 per, about 400 were black murdering blacks. So, the answer to the equation is that Black lives matter, but only when killed by police, but mainly white police. Seems to make sense.

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[–] drakesdoom 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That actually seems low based on violent crime rates.

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