Archived Rand Paul "Boston Bombers Were Coddled But They Still Attacked Us" (breitbart.com)
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Archived Rand Paul "Boston Bombers Were Coddled But They Still Attacked Us" (breitbart.com)
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[–] WhoFramedReaderRabit 4 points 30 points 34 points (+34|-4) ago
Man has a point. I love how the left assumes if were just nice and give them free shit, they'll stop attacking us.
[–] metaton 0 points 19 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago
UK politicians tried this, allowed in hate preachers into the country and espouse hatred thinking terrorists wouldn't shit in their own backyard. Then the 7/7 London bombings happened, you can't appease murders.
[–] YourDumbWhat 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
Really? Who on the left is saying this?
Pretty sure the discrepency between right and left regarding welfare is that the right believes welfare does more harm than good, while the left thinks welfare (and other govt. benefits) provide enough good that the small amount of those abusing the system is acceptable. Like, yes, exploitation should be minimized, but to deny benefits from the many who these programs help in order to punish some bad apples is unfair to the many who are in need of temporary help and are not bad apples.
You've a rather hyperbolic idea of how the left views this. And granted, while views vary on a person to person basis (just as they do all across the political spectrum, it's unfair to lump everyone on the left with this absurd straw man you've built to describe them.
Giving out "free shit" isn't going to eliminate shitty people from the world, nor is telling everyone they're on their own and they can fuck themselves if they hit hard times.
[–] Pylote 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Second right* left
[–] thefedisascam 9 points 21 points 30 points (+30|-9) ago
The point of welfare (paying people to not work) isn't to help society but to destroy it (see any predominantly black neighborhood).
[–] jaceame 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago (edited ago)
What is your opinion of unemployment insurance?
[–] Yukonman 2 points 25 points 27 points (+27|-2) ago
I'm not a supporter of it.
People use to have to save money for a rainy day. Now they depend on social benifits to cover them in the event of a job loss.
This provides a disincentive to save. We can find causation on the data series that proves Marginal Propensity to Save decreases as social benifits increase.
This becomes a problem, under the Solow Growth Model long run economic growth depends on a high MPS.
This hurts us in the long run and drives the inequality rate up. The largest factor for personal wealth and financial improvement is the individuals savings rates and the saving rates of their parents.
If we look at countries that have had the highest growth, it's the countries that have the highest marginal propensity to save.
Now counties in Europe have found ways around increasing savings rate while managing social benifits but it's not something the US does and as a result the policies hurt our economy and inflict a system of economic stagnation on individuals.
Source: Masters in Economics
[–] anonlymouse 2 points 3 points 5 points (+5|-2) ago
You do want an income floor so that you don't have a domino effect every time someone loses a job. There is a proper way to do welfare, but it's very minimal, and the key is to remove as many barriers to employment as there are (such as minimum wage), and you also can't have open borders and a welfare system.
[–] thefedisascam ago
Only if it is voluntary and not coerced by the guns of the state.
[–] whisky_cat 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
I know people that welfare actually helped. I'm not huge on Federal welfare but I've seen it positively effect some lives. Thus sweeping statements are dangerous.
[–] Yukonman ago
That's the problem with economics it deals with aggragate data that isn't aimed at everyone.
But most people do forget the opportunity costs. Say those people that used the system were able to save more in case of the threat of lost employment. The lack of benifits would equal an equally lower tax rate to allow the extra savings but reduce bureaucracy and allow comoound interest to be applied before it was needed.
However, some people may not have had the ability to work long enough to be able to save, so while there's an overall increase to the aggragate economy this would be an inequality.
Instead of the current social setup you could take out employment insurance young in the form of loan with the condition that you pay it back later once your working again.
(This arguement was for EI not disability welfare)
Disability welfare is just an unfortunate social cost we all pay. like an insurance policy for everyone.
[–] JerseyWabbit 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
Once again, Rand Paul is absolutely right. Wish he could get the poll #s to be a serious presidential candidate. He's just what this country needs.
[–] chodie 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
That's fair and understandable to be wary of 'refugees' from areas known for deeply anti-western sentiments, especially with the current crisis. Still, people will call him bigoted for proposing it.
[–] QuestionEverything 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
"Coddled?" Don't forget Tsarnaevs brother and cousin were killed while under FBI custody. Both look like they were tortured for a considerable period of time before being executed. Have a look.. (NSFL)
http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU
Bombs? Those bombs were BS. Show me a limb. Supposedly 40+ limbs were blown off. Show me one.
Those medical personnel are fake. Professional here. Noob mistakes everywhere: A paramedic would never load a handbag. -They get tangled. Oh look, the handbag got tangled.
Fake blood everywhere. When you work with blood, you know it: it stains. It creeps into fabrics. It darkens to a very specific color. Fake blood: off colored, beads on fabrics. Non-organic.
Medical reports are classified. Doctors are gagged. Crisis actors and Craft personnel everywhere. Rodondo? the guy who pushed the wheelchair? FBI stooge. Well documented. The guy he was wheeling? Look at his recovery time for that 'explosive amputation'.. He's a medical anomaly. Recovery times are double that easily. -He literally healed twices as fast as anyone in history. Shouldn't we be studying that? (yeah..)
Chief NON-special unit FBI personnel are dead. The one boston cop who ran into them? At 38yo he suddenly died of a brain aneurysm (incredibly unlikely). The two local Boston FBI? Died simultaneously in a 'helicopter training accident'. (technically impossible, training protocol must have been thrown out the window- an anomaly in not just FBI history, but the entire ARMY air assault training program). -One death shuts down training.
Convenient. The story is, the Tsarnaevs were running around telling people they were being set-up.
Tsarnaevs testimony in court: not one word. Defense attorneys, several hundred, were so outraged at the travesty of this trial they formally protested it.
He got the Death sentence in Boston. We're like 85% anti-death penalty BTW. Loaded Jury? Loaded EVERYTHING.
Five minutes of critical thinking shows anyone with a shred of bravery the truth. But most people shirk away from the truth because the idea of a dark government is too much for them to acknowledge or process. To the point they will react with anger or even outright lies to perpetuate a comfortable ignorance.
53% Of our Budget is fighting wars on EIGHT fronts. Because "Terrorism".
[–] ScientiaPotentia ago
This has been a hard lesson for SJWs, but they still won't listen. You can't make friends with people who want to kill you no matter how hard you try or how much wealth you show them with. In the end they still want to kill you.
[–] Sickofit [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Useful Idiots running wild
[–] wylan ago
I wish he was just a bit more like his dad (more of a libertarian.) I like a lot of what he is trying to do and what he stands for. I think he would be a fine President, and it's a shame that he has no chance of being elected. More evidence of the political system in the USA being flawed beyond the point of broken. There will be no true change until smaller parties can make inroads into government.
[–] totes-mah-voats ago
Shame Rand is running an embarrassingly bad campaign.
[–] Sickofit [S] ago
Tell me about it