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[–] Pattoe 1 points 161 points (+162|-1) ago 

This doesn't surprise me at all. One of my colleagues was fired after refusing to come into work after I 'offended' her. All I did was make a fat joke after she made one about herself.

I asked my boss if I was in trouble and he said 'no, she needed sacking, it was taking 5 minutes just to walk around her arse.'

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[–] KarlWayne 0 points 81 points (+81|-0) ago 

+1 for your boss.

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 38 points (+38|-0) ago 

He grew up as a farmer and then started a restaurant which he intended to be healthy. He's had to make the place less and less healthy just to keep the place from going under because customers outright refuse to eat healthy. The salad bar started healthy when the place opened 20 years ago, now it's mostly fried crap, pasta that they put fuck tonnes of oil on, cheese and leaf that goes almost untouched, (Customers will even take some, put it on the side of their plate, and then NOT eat it.)

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[–] Al_Rubyx [S] 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Holy fucking savage.

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[–] AKnightAlone 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I was fired for making a Swastika out of gummi bears. I'm generally pretty respectful of PC nuances, I just also push limits occasionally for my own humor. Apparently candy symbols are too offensive.

What I learned in the process through introspection is that a symbol is only what we make it. I made a joke to a friend albeit based on dark humor, but it was ultimately a fire-worthy offense because other people considered it somehow irrationally offensive. Me having a job was less important than a momentary symbol.

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I agree. That's totally stupid. But you have to be careful and know what your workplace is like. I can get away with calling my colleague a sand nigger, as long as I don't say it loud enough for customers to hear, and he'll take the joke and call me a honky cracker or something. We can get away with this because our workplace is far from politically correct. We understand there is a difference between humour and satire and actual racism (Or sexism, etc).

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[–] Irollthenickles 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

haha that's amazing, office job?

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[–] Al_Rubyx [S] 2 points 87 points (+89|-2) ago  (edited ago)

And the least surprising thing: who voted for censorship more?

Younger generations over older generations

Democrats over republicans

Non-whites over whites

Poorly educated over those with degrees

EU over US (this is by far the most drastic difference)

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[–] BentAxel 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

Same people who are giving freedom up for laziness. Ironic? Not really.

Poorly educated over those with degrees

Education benefits society as a whole.

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[–] Totenglocke 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

Only if the uneducated don't ignore the educated. As someone with a masters in Applied Economics, the majority of people with no education in Economics constantly insist that they know more about the field than those of us who studied it for years and work in it daily.

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[–] RedditIsPropaganda23 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

If only you didn't have to go $50-100K in debt directly after getting one. Especially with this job market.

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[–] lexsird 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, education benefits a society as a whole, but political indoctrination doesn't and has absolutely no place in academia. If you don't understand the difference, you either need more education or perhaps education isn't your thing and you should do something more productive with your time. (This isn't a personal diatribe versus you btw, this is still your safezone...lol..couldn't resist.)

An education is suppose to help you sift through the bullshit in life associated with politics and to understand politics for what they are, how they are used, etc etc. An education isn't there to instill in you your political being, that's like hacking people at the BIOS level. It's filthy dirty bullshit that should be frowned upon, loathed, and not tolerated.

When it happens we all should perk up and pay attention to what kind of weapons quality asshole(s) are doing it and lay the fucking smack down up on them. Vigilance people, it's part of what keeps these machine from running off the tracks and yes we all need to be pushing.

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[–] superwookee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This is why the Marxists are attacking colleges.

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[–] pinkmagnet 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Wouldn't the hate speech that these groups vomit also be censored? hmm...

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[–] Crashmarik 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yes but by the time Robespierre gets the guillotine it's far too late, and the country is down the crapper.

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[–] RenagadeGam3r 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'd like to see speech get limited just to watch it backfire on them when it's their speech that gets limited.

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[–] 123_456 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Wouldn't the hate speech that these groups vomit also be censored? hmm...

Yeah, and that's why they're going to regret their bullshit in the coming years. They think they're all progressive, and smart, but then a new generation's going to come up that's going to use those laws against them. They're shooting themselves in the foot.

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[–] Gamio 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They think their on the right side of the moral compass in all things so why would anyone censor them?

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[–] Lobotomy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You can have a degree and still be uneducated.

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[–] Al_Rubyx [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's for sure. But having one sure makes you more likely to be.

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[–] BALL_FONDLER 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Non-whites over whites

The article says it's mostly white people who want to ban offensive speech

In the U.S., our findings also show a racial divide on this question, with non-whites more likely (38%) to support government prevention of such speech than non-Hispanic whites (23%)

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[–] novictim 2 points 70 points (+72|-2) ago  (edited ago)

This reflects directly on our dumbed-down educational system and cultural triumph of materialism over civic responsibility and funding for civics education.

STEM skills are important. But so is learning history and the basic philosophical traditions of the West.

You hear this reflected in false equivalencies in arguments over Charlie Hebdo's rights to mock and satirize the powerful including Islam and the counter argument that Charlie Hebdo should not offend people.

These are NOT equivalent. The rights of Charlie Hebdo satirists do NOT infringe on the rights of others in any way, shape,. or form.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT BE OFFENDED.

There is no such right. Adults should have explored this issue already in their early teens! I have to hope that immigrants are informed about these principles and asked to affirm them before they share citizenship with the rest of us!

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[–] BentAxel 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

This quote is so very applicable today. "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Eleanor Roosevelt.

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[–] novictim 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Now that is a great quote!

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[–] Fambida 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Preach it, brother. Literally. Go to a college campus and educate some little shits.

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[–] Antima 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If you look at it closely the less educated were the group that supposed this the most. Educated people are least likely to support this "offensive speech" law.

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[–] novictim 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly. We do see this a lot now on college campuses and we should back track to why this is the case now.

Personally, my suspicion is that budget cuts to civics/social studies/government-history courses is to blame along with a rewriting of highschool text books to de-emphasise the powerful and liberating principles of the Enlightenment and the West's contribution to liberal thought and our liberal traditions of Free Speech and secular law.

We have a awful lot to be proud of. Our traditions are praiseworthy. Focusing on the revisionist back glances at past wrongs from today's ethically progressed society is idiotic and destructive. Context is lost and this seems deliberate?

Its like a Turkish bazaar where the purchaser tries to point out all the defects of the goods they really really want to buy! We can't teach our own history in that manner. Children should not to be taught to hate their predecessors! Come on!

We are climbing a ladder of liberty and progress. We don't to be shamed by that climb. The climb needs to be celebrated along with the people who lead the way.

And then the SJWs try to take away Thomas Jefferson from our pantheon of heroic thinkers? Damn, what idiocy.

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[–] GrifTheYellowGuy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If I had the right to not be offended, I would be offended that anybody had it. Thus, nobody would have the right to not be offended.

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[–] sp00kygh0st 3 points 30 points (+33|-3) ago 

This is not okay. These kids need to be taught about the founding fathers, and their visions for the country. No more marxist critical theory bullshit should be allowed.

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[–] Sippio 5 points 17 points (+22|-5) ago 

No more marxist critical theory bullshit should be allowed.

So this kind of speech should be banned?

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[–] sp00kygh0st 6 points 21 points (+27|-6) ago 

Shouldn't be taught by state schools. Do what ever you want in your free time

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[–] NeedMoarGuitars 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Well played, well played.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This.

I'm so fucking pissed that there was little time spent on one of the most important free speech trials in American history: Schenck vs. United States, behind which there is a law with modern relevancy.

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[–] guinness2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You seem like a decisive fellow with opinions, so I'll present my opinion and ask for your thoughts on it:

Freedom of expression and religious freedom are basic human rights, however these rights should not be limitless because these rights can be misused as a license to abuse children.

I consider it an act of child abuse for Muslims to indoctrinate children into their fucked-up ideology of terrorism and domestic violence and rape and pedophilia... and ALL Islamic sects promote such bestial filth without exception.

Adults should be free to believe and worship and express themselves freely... even if they want to follow disgusting filth such as Islam... however teaching children that sex crimes against woman and children and the murder of innocent people and the act of terrorism represent moral perfection and are righteous and justified is as fucked-up and dangerous as encouraging children to light bush fires or throw bricks from an overpass... and parents and mosques and imams should be held legally accountable for such bullshit.

Your thoughts?

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[–] SonOfRobin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No... see the founding fathers knew slaves or had slaves so that mean they were bad... M'kay?

All the other things they did don't mean anything...

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[–] Antichamp 13 points 18 points (+31|-13) ago 

Hey these are the people Sanders and Clinton are asking to come out and vote in the next election. God help us all.

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[–] mamwad 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

I've never heard Sanders say anything anti-free speech.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

This kills the narrative.

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[–] Antichamp 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Clearly I mean millennials, when did I ever say he said anything about free speech?

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[–] whitewomenarewhores 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Not at all. These are the people that will eventually be up for vote. These are the people that will define this nation in 10 or 20 years. "It's over" isn't a pessimistic view anymore.

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[–] Tsugumori 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I'm imagining they'll be in for a bit of culture shock as the college-age contingent of them hits the workforce. Try staging a sit-in at your job instead of a university. Just fucking try it.

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[–] AKnightAlone 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Personally, I think our division between the political theater of the corporate parties was the end of freedom in America. At least the end of democracy. I have mostly liberal views, so my version of your tribalistic "It's over" would be seeing how many Republicans have latched to government and ground economic liberty to a stand-still for the sake of wealthy businesses. There's a war between workers and businesses, and right now, we've been convinced not to be greedy when the businesses have full respect to do exactly that.

But before I go on, I realized I didn't open this article. Considering how opinionated it is, I assume it's Breitbart. Always putting a microscope over "liberal" idiots.

Ohp! I was wrong. I'm not going to hide my assumption, either.

But considering it's a valid source, I'm going to attempt to add some reason.

First off, government should have nothing to do with this. People should have the freedom not to be harassed, but that's a questionable line. I'd be inclined to say fuck people who stand outside of abortion clinics and gay parades with signs and megaphones, but within certain restrictions, protests or whatever else should be totally free to express. Ironically, we seem to completely ignore the fact that real protesters as with OWS, for example, were pushed into little boxes, they had to apply for permits to protest, and they were essentially stifled.

However, idealistically speaking, I would be okay with government ending certain abusive assertions. I don't think WBC should be able to protest soldier deaths either, but we simply find people to deal with that and block them out. It's a shitty and half-assed way to do it for the sake of "freedom." But where's the limit? And what's the benefit?

Why would you specifically care about freedom of speech? Because you want the right to make people feel bad about themselves? You want to help spread a message to increase our American suicide rates?

I value freedom of speech and understand the great importance in not stifling different opinions, but what is the actual benefit of certain opinions? If someone was on the street corner every day proclaiming Barney the dinosaur is coming to save the planet from destruction, maybe we'd try to convince that person to cut the bullshit and stop being noise pollution. I'd like to think force wouldn't be necessary, but the truth of the matter is that we're never free. We don't have freedom of speech. I can't threaten people openly without potentially being arrested for it. And why shouldn't I be arrested for it if it's causing people distress? People shouldn't be pussies about things, but must the alternative be to absolutely defend assholes? I'd prefer a middle-ground by some means.

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[–] Totenglocke 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

This is why I'm glad that I had a vasectomy in my 20's. I don't have to worry about the future and how the retards are destroying the country, I can just ignore them while they burn the world down around themselves.

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[–] 123_456 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The downfall of Communism is that you cannot reasonably rely on the government to organize your life. This is what makes a free market, with few interventions, work. People know what they want, and they ought to be able to make their own choices. Sure, people fuck up, but they know what's needed in their life more so than any bureaucratic organization.

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[–] nobodyatall 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

There isn't really anything you can do to prepare. Maybe try to flee the country.

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[–] William_Wallace 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Lots you can do to prepare. Think about; physical fitness, supplies, gun ownership, having an escape plan (the wilderness north my friends). But yeah, maybe, there really is not much that can be done except go down swinging.

But, really, we need to get involved in a huge way with the loudest voices. Millennials are children and need to be put in their place. If the sane among us sit idle by, then there truly is no hope.

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[–] GrifTheYellowGuy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The good news is that there are tons of Americans who view "'dem damn dirty Commies" as subhumans, and they absolutely won't think twice about shooting anybody sporting red on sight unless it's the American flag, so a communist revolution would probably fail.

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[–] Grumpy_Old_Man 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Not surprising. It's the "everybody gets a trophy" generation. Their feelings are easily hurt and they have been coddled their entire lives.

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[–] dv1155 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Maybe turning over the education system to liberal teachers unions and radical leftist university professors wasn't the best idea?

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[–] 8thGenSi 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

As a 32 year old man, it sure sucks being grouped up with 18 year olds.

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[–] Aetrion 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

The Millennials will be known as "The worst generation" in history books. Mark my words.

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[–] SirRender 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Gen X here. I am just glad I have 4 kids that will be college age in 10 years, I can teach them now and make sure they are well inoculated to these idiots, hopefully my kids will be as much a pain to millenials as they are to us.

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[–] EarlPoncho 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

the boomers were walking away with it but this is pretty bad. very embarrassed for my generation atm

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[–] Aetrion 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

The boomers are extremely selfish, but they are not destroy the foundational principles of democracy and a free society to protect their feefees selfish.

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[–] MCVoat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Lol, not when millenials are writing them.

Plus baby boomers still worst of all time.

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[–] Aetrion 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The people who come after them and will have to fight to get their freedom back will not look kindly on the shitheads who were like "You know all that crap the nazis and the soviets did? We should try that again, but this time blacks and gays can help too!"

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[–] Al_Rubyx [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm embarrassed for it. I don't hang out with anyone under 28 anymore.

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