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[–] DerpExpress 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

They are trying to prove Snowden wrong. The surveillance state isn't as bad as Snowden said.... Its worse!

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[–] mindful 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Hijacking top comment: Started to collect information about all things concerning mass (global) surveillance today after seeing three posts about surveillance in less than 30 minutes. Contributors are more than welcome. Any good documentaries/educational videos on surveillance?

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[–] Spear1000 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago 

Rand 2016 or this will be the USA in 4 years.

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[–] Fambida 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

A reminder: Trump SUPPORTS NSA surveillance.

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[–] EllenPaosEgo 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not to sound like a dick but source? If this is true I am much less likely to vote for him.

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[–] RedLeader 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Rand's the man.

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[–] destinthegreat 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Bernie ?

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[–] Spear1000 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

The citizens should be ashamed of themselves for letting them do that. Its ultimately up to the people to take their country back, stop being so polite.

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[–] Lobotomy 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

The British aren't polite, they're submissive, timid little dogs, who will roll over for anyone.

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[–] PardiGras 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Yeah and Americans aren't passive at all, as evidenced by all the recent violent revolts in response to all the government abuses in the news lately...

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[–] SushiMaster69 4 points 1 points (+5|-4) ago 

Which is exactly why we lost WW2. Oh wait...

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[–] CUPSLOCK 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You're saying this as if the people of the UK agree with this. They don't.

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[–] Spear1000 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Then fucking do something. You guys aren't even lifting a finger to protest or anything. You're a bunch of pussies.

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[–] villafane 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

so these countries are supposed to be vanguards of democracy? some example they are leading by. the despots that these western countries took down suddenly look okay. what was their excuse again? what democracy ?

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[–] Fambida 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Old Stasi and KGB agents are laughing themselves sick.

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[–] Obviousbond 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

look, this is just a reminder the the UK is not a democracy. never was, probly never will be. even though heads rolled in france and the yanks threw some fukin tea in the harbour, the irish geese flew the coup, the tsar and his daughters were trammeled, "revolution" swept clean the remnants of the "old world" and enlightenment paved the way for bright new day. the real monarchs of these fine new "democracies" are the banksters and the monied elite that play power broker in the red velvet and walnut paneled rooms throughout out the civilized world. They are the .001 percent that run EVERYTHING, everything,everything,everthingeverything,everything,everthingeverything,everything,everthingeverything,everything,everthingeverything,everything,everthingeverything,everything,everthingeverything,everything,everthingeverything,everything,everthing.............fromthesoapinyershowertothefoodonyerplatethetiresonyercartheplasticinyerpocket the keyboard, the mouse and the screen and allllllll the tubes in between is owned and operated by just a few interested parties. they own you, they own me, they own all the 1'sand0's and they can do whatever the fuck they like.

obviously

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[–] New_years_day 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Take a picture ladies and gents, because the internet as you know it, will be changing and there is nothing you can do about it.

You that actually cares, you are the real 1%. Most people don't give a fuck, because it hasn't really affected them yet.

These shill's on this site, Reddit, MSM, ect. ect., they are all working against us, and they will win.

The craziest part of all, is that the ones that work to eliminate free speech and open news sources are just as affected as we are. Maybe the amount of money they are getting is worth there children's children having no freedom. Must be a lot of fucking money.

I'm typical not a doom sayer, but the money and politics are clearly working together and against true freedom.

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[–] Zardoz 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

As a Canadian of British heritage I was shocked and disgusted at the real life 'Big Brother' surveillance and total lack of privacy, CCTV monitoring that goes on in the UK. And its been that way for a long time - they were the world leaders and even in 2000 it was boasted you could walk clear across London and be captured and watched on a CCTV camera the entire time no gaps.

Somewhere I have video that looks like undercover footage because in fact I was nervous to be seen recording but of police gauntlets outside train doors and people randomly (or not) pulled to a highly invasive body search around a corner with police dogs and the works. Disgusting.

Whats really disgusting to me - the bewildering tolerance and 'dumb acceptance' by Brits. Its something where they became slowly mass conditioned. I think of the 'frog in hot water' analogy where its done slowly and early and soon they just accept having CCTV cameras, body searches and really little or no privacy rights. I might expect that from former-USSR people or Chinese but in fact those people are far LESS tolerant than the sheepish Brits who just 'murmur' a little then obey.

The people who defeated Hitler and his creepy as hell privacy invading 'Orwellian' world were somehow the very first to just mass-agree to be monitored by government 24/7 and dont get me started on their customs and bag searching at events and how they didn't peep when highly controlled and monitored internet surveillance was brought in/proposed.

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[–] TiagoTiago 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It doesn't even have to be an attempt; just an accusation, then if the individual isn't important for the powers-that-be, his life is over.

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[–] Zardoz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Every time I've arrived at UK Customs I have been treated like a criminal, condescended to, repeatedly had to all but grovel and then display extensive proofs of why i was there, who i was meeting, wait until they could phone my contacts, sit inside the mini-jail section with Ahmed or worse watch Ahmed somehow waltz through while I'm getting chastized for not answering a trick question fast enough.

I guess the problem is that I'm a Canadian citizen of British descent with native UK family members and have never commited a crime in any country, spend money in the UK and a grandfather who fought Nazis for the queen and of course a pretty obvious Scottish surname. So of course I need to be seriously examined and warned and this is a true story the last time I was there:

An Arab Airlines plane gets in just minutes before our Canadian plane and so its 250 Muslim Arabs, veils and burkas ahead of us and about 20 minutes into the wait I'm joking around with an Indian guy who starts teasing me "Oh sorry buddy but you are gonna get grilled". He starts pointing out 'brown brown brown.. oh, theres a white guy ahead of us.. brown brown".

So his meaning was that I would get picked out in a racist token show. Sure enough the white guy nerd with a tuba ahead of us gets just interrogated like he was smugglling a bomb, his equipment pulled apart, uniformed people surrounding him, a manager comes out to chastize him and yep sure enough when it was my turn my Indian pal all but walked through by flashing a passport and holy hell I got the 3rd degree and phone calls were being made and for some reason I was given some big warning that I had better not be attempting to work in the UK and that if I was a German I could work via EU rules but as a Canadian I had no right and better not try and yep.

One of the 1st things I saw on the way to my aunties house was that some Muslim refugees had been housed in a nearby neighbourhood and in addition to giving me dirty intimidating looks from the 4 or 5 big husky very healthy looking young Muslim males dressed better than I was noticing 2 of them were busting off one of those 'name plaques' beside the front door. not well either just prying it off with a screwdriver.

Oh and the CCTV camera on the corner of a very suburban little street that moved by remote operator obviously following me. To be an equal opportunity complainer I would also mention the creepy camera following peoples movements didn't seem to have any affect on the asshole teens that somehow still managed to throw rocks at cars and houses at night and they were all local native white shitheads. I guess the CCTV camera didn't work at night because they happily blocked a bridge on a little walking path and threw cans and intimidated adults trying to walk past them as obnoxiously as possible nightly.

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[–] Dereliction 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What a fucking disgrace.

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