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[–] ImmaHermit 2 points 164 points (+166|-2) ago  (edited ago)

There is a danger of becoming hysterical about paedophilia and seeing it everywhere, like witches at Salem, or “Commies” in Hollywood during McCarthyism.

Kinda like how feminism sees rape, where every bush and dark alley hides an evil male who can't wait to rape their green haired 500 pound ass while pulling on their nose ring.

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[–] DerpExpress [S] 3 points 41 points (+44|-3) ago 

To be fair, though instead of raping The Ham-beast, with decent game you could have sex with a normal human, or at the very least pay someone to fuck you. A pedophile has to become a celibate priest.

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[–] Kaizervonmaanen 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

He can also role play. And pay a prostitute to pretend this or that.

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[–] BoiseNTheHood 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This isn't entirely accurate. Not everyone he accused was really a Communist, but he was right about more people than the left was willing to admit. The problem is that he went mad with power and nobody told him to rein it in before he ruined his reputation.

Regardless, the left loves to bring up McCarthyism to distract from how they dealt with Communists. For example, FDR's Smith Act, which was written to justify deporting a prominent Communist agitator (Harry Bridges) and was later used to jail other Communist leaders. Or the loyalty checks for federal employees that Truman instituted through an executive order. Or the McCarran Act, which leftists in Congress overrode Truman's veto and forced into law. That law revoked the citizenship and passports of Communists and enabled them to be deported. Or the Hollywood blacklist, which was a bipartisan effort that began under a Republican-controlled House but grew in size, scope and zeal when the Democrats took control of Congress.

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[–] lorlipone 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

Beat me to it. Fucking spot on.

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[–] NotA-atWork 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago 

I think you're missing the point.

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[–] joepaulk7 4 points 96 points (+100|-4) ago 

"Some gravitated toward occupations such as schoolteacher or social worker, where they could enjoy the company of children without plotting abuse* This was horrifying.

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[–] 123_456 3 points 44 points (+47|-3) ago 

Seems akin to an alcoholic working at a liquor store.

Except the liquor doesn't get emotionally traumatized after being touched inappropriately.

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[–] Simplertimes 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

One witty, acerbic individual pointed out "That seems akin to Wolves becoming vegetarians, whilst working on a farm with chickens, getting close to their prey, without plotting their demise".

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[–] ObscureReference 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

That is a Bad Idea Jeans Commercial.

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[–] Dereliction 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago  (edited ago)

What immediately followed, the rationalization happening, is equally so:

"This fitted with personality profiles indicating that they were gentle, rational and not disposed to harm anybody."

I mean, did it really? REALLY?

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[–] NikoMyshkin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah that SUPER creeped me out.

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[–] the_magic_man 14 points 85 points (+99|-14) ago 

Article is right. Some pedos are born with a sexual attraction to kids and never act on it because they know its wrong.

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[–] ObscureReference 6 points 31 points (+37|-6) ago 

Yeah, based on some of the stuff I have read is if one gets molested as a kid that person may want to molest children. If they don't act on it good for them. But stay out of teaching and places where one interacts with kids all the time.

Same thing to lots of us comparing the situation with a sixteen year old girl. She may be sexually attractive but stay away.

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[–] LOLThatsJustRetarded 10 points 12 points (+22|-10) ago 

If it's legal, go for it.

16 is legal in much of the US.

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[–] bubbleki 16 points 5 points (+21|-16) ago 

It isn't an orientation. People like you are trying to turn it into one.

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[–] exor15 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

I'm not trying to justify pedophile behavior (for obvious reasons, it's sick), but do you honestly think those people just sat down one day and decided "from now on, I'm going to be sexually attracted to children"? People used to say the same thing about homosexuality.

I've once saw an AMA on Reddit of a guy who said he was sexually attracted to children. He said very few of them are comfortable with their attraction and are angry that you literally can't get therapy for it in most countries.

All that said, acting on urges IS a choice and anyone who acts on urges like this is disgusting. But some of these people literally cannot help who they are attracted to and they need help.

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[–] caveman1337 3 points 11 points (+14|-3) ago 

It probably falls in a similar category as an orientation. More of a fetish thing though. The problem with fetishes is that it takes over your sexuality. If it's deep enough, you can't have any sexual pleasure without it. Most pedophiles hate the fact that they are pedophiles.

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[–] Chompchompers 7 points 1 points (+8|-7) ago 

It IS a fetish though. Just like homosexuality, heterosexuality, whatever. Sexuality is measured by varying degrees of attraction, not just Yes and No.

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[–] heroicdanger 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Are you sexually attracted to children?

Presumably not. So how could you possibly know what they are feeling or not feeling?

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[–] 123_456 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Article is right. Some pedos are born with a sexual attraction to kids and never act on it because they know its wrong.

And the article also implies pedophiles working with children is social good. The fuck. Also, the only reason they know it's wrong is because we've been telling them that. If people didn't shout about how bad it was, guess what? They'd think it was okay. This is a learned "moral." They're modifying their behavior to fit into society, and not face punishment.

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[–] the_devils_lettuce 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

That's the first fallacy...that they're born with it. Pedophilia is a result of past experiences. If they can convince us that it's something they're "born with", they're halfway there to getting it normalized and eventually accepted.

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[–] jeegte12 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

They'd think it was okay. This is a learned "moral."

how do you know this?

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[–] scrotums 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

The title is stupid, too.

"SJWs are now defending pedophiles." Who are they defending them against? SJWs.

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[–] 2969294 7 points 24 points (+31|-7) ago 

In my studies of the Paedophile Information Exchange in the 1980s, many members admitted sexual feelings for children which they had been able to contain or turn to social good. Some gravitated toward occupations such as schoolteacher or social worker, where they could enjoy the company of children without plotting abuse. This fitted with personality profiles indicating that they were gentle, rational and not disposed to harm anybody.

... So. There are schoolteachers and social workers who admit to feeling sexual attraction to children and we're just trusting them based on "personality tests" not to do anything with those feelings?

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[–] piratse 7 points 50 points (+57|-7) ago 

I have the feeling to jerk off in the office sometimes. I don't do it. I have the feeling to have sex with hot women that come to my office, I don't rape them. It's almost as if lots of people can control their urges. Being attracted to something doesn't mean you will act on it, especially when it's illegal and frowned upon in current society.

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[–] 2969715 11 points 6 points (+17|-11) ago 

I have the feeling to jerk off in the office sometimes. I don't do it. I have the feeling to have sex with hot women that come to my office, I don't rape them. It's almost as if lots of people can control their urges. Being attracted to something doesn't mean you will act on it, especially when it's illegal and frowned upon in current society.

The difference between those things and pedophilia is that the first involves only yourself (maybe unlucky witnesses) and the second involves another human who can fight back with a reasonable expectation of success while children are neither mature enough to withstand emotional manipulation nor physically strong enough to ward off attackers.

This is why society, current, past and I hope future, has valued the safety of children over adults in relationships between them.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

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[–] Dysnomia 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Well, let's observe the difference between a violent, abusive paedophile and a non-violent, loving paedophile.

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[–] Cid 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Pedos already do. There's a civil war in the pedo world. I think the hierarchy goes:

  1. Non-offending pedo

  2. Non-offending who likes non-nude child models.

  3. Non-offending pedo who likes child porn (emphasis being children in sex acts, not the normal dictionary definition).

  4. Child molesting pedo.

  5. Hurtcore pedo.

There's a lot more too it, but, they all hate each other for their own reasons. Crazy, right?

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[–] notawhitesupremacist 3 points 19 points (+22|-3) ago 

If you are sexually attracted to children but never offend, I'm not going to let you babysit, but you aren't a bad person and you have my sympathy.

Child molesters should be publicly shot.

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[–] 123_456 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

Pedophiles should not be around children. Period. Also, there are a lot of pedophiles on reddit. Think about it. How the fuck do they find all that kiddy porn to upload to other websites to sabotage them? I don't even know where to find child porn. Not that I'm looking.

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[–] reddrick 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Not that I'm looking.

Exactly. You don't think you could find it in a few minutes if you wanted to?

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[–] weezkitty 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Also, there are a lot of pedophiles on reddit.

And Voat

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[–] ironhand00 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Should people who are attracted to children but never offended be allowed to raise their own children? Or only with state supervision? Can they participate in the local school carpool?

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[–] ShortWarrior 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

If the parents know that person is a pedophile, they probably wouldn't carpool with them.

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[–] DerpExpress [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In the dick!

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[–] TheDude2 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Did you supply any studies to prove these claims? They seem dubious, but I don't know.

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[–] morrwin 7 points 1 points (+8|-7) ago 

Yes each and every one shows, majority of pedo's are males and the majority of victims are males.

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[–] TAThatBoomerang 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

I agree with the general sentiment of this article. There needs to be a very clear difference between prepubescent sexual attraction, post-pubescent sexual attraction and people who act and don't act on it. For example, a 24 year old being attracted to a 16 year old gets to be called a pedophile. A 43 year old raping a 4 year old is also called a pedophile. We either need to stop calling the former pedophiles or have a better word for them.

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[–] european 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Probably best to observe the ( age/2)+7 formula.

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[–] caveman1337 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Pedophile is for pre-pubescent. Hebephile is for pubescent (during puberty). Ephebophile is for post-pubescent.

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[–] deathcomesilent 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

TIL.

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[–] Dysnomia 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Hebophile or ephebophile.

I'm still not sure. Only learned about it recently.

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[–] luckyguy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think we should stop calling the 43 year old a pedophile and call him a child rapist. The problem with using multiple words for the different age group is that any person's language processing prefers there to be as few words as possible so on principle we should have different names for the different attractions but it's just unrealistic. As a Ephebophile myself I'm the person who's most effected by that name compression but I'm also a realist.

But really the solution is to stop calling the 43 year old a pedophile in the same way we wouldn't label a rapist a heterosexual. Imagine if that hit the news. So I'll be reasonable and even take on the moniker of a pedophile, even though technically I'm not, if we all agree to call that other guy a child rapist and then we can witch hunt child rapists (which we should) instead of Ephebophiles who technically have normal sexuality.

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[–] In_Cog_Nito 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

They removed a claim that some victims only come forward for money from the original article. You can see the original article here.

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[–] nonethewiser 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Good ol' victim blaming.

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[–] In_Cog_Nito 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago  (edited ago)

The way they said it sounded like there are a lot of false accusations, and victims do need to come forward regardless of payout to keep these pedos from victimizing more kids.

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