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[–] Thirdful 28 points 65 points (+93|-28) ago  (edited ago)

Calling bullshit on this. Granted the life aint great you can get by on this. Studio shithole, used car, just enough insurance and thrifty cooking skill can go a long way.

As I said. It is not ideal but possible.

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[–] Volcris 24 points 60 points (+84|-24) ago 

Why should we accept people who work hard ever living on "it's possible?". When other countries have perfectly healthy economies why should we ever tolerate our compatriots living on "if you work hard you can barely survive"?

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[–] watitdew 16 points 76 points (+92|-16) ago 

I make less than 15/hr. I got by on 9/hr for years. In my experience in the poor parts of town, living with roommates, pissing my money away on weed and shots at bars, I have concluded that most of the "poor" are doing better than barely surviving but are piss poor at managing their money and spend it on stupid shit because they want to live beyond their means.

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[–] Moderately_soluble 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Well, if it weren't for the fact that all of our jobs are now in those countries with healthy economies we'd probably be better off as there would be a job defecit rather than an abundance of workers

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[–] Totenglocke 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago 

"Why should people who make bad choices have to suffer the consequences of their actions?"

Jesus fucking Christ, this is why I have no hope for the future.

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[–] organicgangbang 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Especially when if the tax burden was shared equally by large corporations at the same level it is by individual taxpayers, the quality of life would be significantly higher for the average person.

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[–] 3topcat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

When I made less than $14 an hour, I did have medical Ins. from my employeer.

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[–] Baines 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

then you get sick for 3 days and loose all of that

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[–] xklevin1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I know right while the Waltons who have never worked a day in their lives are feasting steak and lobster on their private jets.

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[–] beren 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Not just that, but nobody ever said you should be able to live on your own just out of high school working at McDonald's. I did not know ANYONE growing up that didn't have roomates to split the cost of living, it is a part of growing up. News flash people: it has NEVER been possible to live by yourself on a minimum wage job and have a car, cable tv, internet, and an xbox.

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[–] piss_chugger 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

Thanks, Obama!

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[–] Grumpy_Old_Man 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Can I keep my doctor? I was told I could keep my doctor.

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[–] Baines 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I'm paying 130$ a month. How are you paying 500$?

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[–] ABCDeezFGeez 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Cheapest I could find was $250. Can I ask how I might get $130?

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[–] CatNamedJava 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

You are paying too much i bought obama care for 150

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[–] flarflar 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This is funny basic plans starts at $250 for the $15000 out of pocket before it kicks in. Guess it depends where you live.

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[–] jeegte12 13 points 25 points (+38|-13) ago 

i live in a pretty nice 2 bed/1 bath apartment in a relatively nice neighborhood in texas. i have one roommate. both he and i work part time making $10 an hour. we're doing just fine.

i know it's anecdotal, but the title is just so blatantly wrong relative to me that i can't help but think that i'm not a unique case.

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[–] whynotanon1 5 points 29 points (+34|-5) ago 

You're cohabitating. The title says single. Dick Promeneke lived in a cabin he built in Alaska for decades. He lived on 0 dollars per hour.

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[–] TheBrokenWorld 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well, he had some outside support. His brother brought him supplies, but I'm not sure who paid for them.

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[–] Totenglocke 10 points 3 points (+13|-10) ago 

Single does not mean "no roommate" it means "not married".

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[–] CatNamedJava 4 points 1 points (+5|-4) ago  (edited ago)

I lived in a small studio in a nice part of downtown Portland on my $11 dollar a hr internship while going to evening classes.

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[–] RockyMountainHigh 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

When? 10 years ago?

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[–] CatNamedJava 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Jesus why is transportation 600 a month. Thsts more than half the rent

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[–] jeegte12 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago  (edited ago)

you have a roommate that helps financially.

and both of us are working 15-25 hours a week.

like i said, the title is just so drastically inaccurate for my situation. we're perfectly comfortable. we even have a dog, and the most expensive internet in town.

demand enough money left over for the occasional gadgets and gizmos,

i have absolutely no pity for people like this. there are rights, there are privileges, and there is entitlement. why people want to fucking encourage this behavior is beyond me.

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[–] badp4nd4 5 points 14 points (+19|-5) ago  (edited ago)

2240 before taxes, 1700 after (est.)

Rent - 800/m

Food - 240/m

Car Payment - 300

Car Ins - 100

Cell - 60

Savings : 100

Recreation / Gas : 100

Total: 1700

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[–] watitdew 10 points 31 points (+41|-10) ago 

You forgot:

Air Jordans - 60/m

Weed - 150/m

Restaurant food - 200/m

Bar tabs - 350/m

Total: 2460

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[–] ginx2666 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's cool, you can steal what you need, and buy food with stamps.

Unless you're white. Then it's not socially acceptable.

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[–] kjell 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Only $60 for Jordans

I wish I lived that universe. I gave up on retardedly expensive shoes when I was fourteen. It never made sense to pay so much for plastic that lasts a month before they start falling apart. It's the sketchers life for me. I've never smoked weed so I can't really speak to those prices but $150 seems low. But I do spend obscene amounts of money to stay drunk 14/7

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[–] Macnewbie 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I lived on a very similar budget when i first started on my own about a decade ago. While "doable" the saving portion often goes to small unexpected thing like a flat tire or long distance overrun or medicines etc. Anyone who works an honest 40 hours should not have to have that life, it sucks.

edit: forgot the word "not" in the last sentence

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[–] destinthegreat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Do you think its harder now for the new generation with these higher college tuitions.

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[–] badp4nd4 14 points -3 points (+11|-14) ago 

Gotta work your way up the ladder the same way everyone else does. No reason someone who doesn't put in hard work will stay making 14$ an hour.

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[–] 2871589? 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

One serious medical or mechanical emergency away from complete and total poverty and a wage with ever diminishing purchasing power and an ever increasing cost of living.

What a life.

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[–] TheBrokenWorld 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Recreation / Gas : 100

lol, yeah, if you drive a scooter around everywhere and don't actually spend any money on recreation.

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[–] MisterMcDuck 5 points 11 points (+16|-5) ago 

If only there was some way to enter cohabitation with other working adults to reduce the cost of rent

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[–] magnora 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago  (edited ago)

but prison costs upwards of $80k per inmate

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[–] AKnightAlone 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah, but as long as you don't get caught, you'll be rolling in that black market dough just for tossing a few seeds out in the woods.

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[–] watitdew 6 points 7 points (+13|-6) ago 

I think in my experience with roommates the costs saved just maybe barely offset getting fucked over on rent or utilities.

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[–] Dysnomia 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Housing cooperatives. It's fancy and complicated but you get more autonomy than in a rental contract and you get to share the costs (and decisions) behind services, utilities, maintenance, property acquisition, etc., with other residents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_cooperative

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[–] physicscat 5 points 10 points (+15|-5) ago 

Yes you can when you first start out. If 10 years later you haven't worked up in you job to make more.....that may be a problem with you.

$14/hr full time....that's more than I made my first job.

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[–] yeast 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I've worked my way up two different companies. Got laid off from both because they folded.

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[–] physicscat 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

I'm at my fourth, left 3 positions not knowing if I'd be hired. Most people don't stay at the same job for 30 years anymore. The job culture in America has changed. Manufacturing is out...service and tech is in.

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[–] 01011011101101 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

How are you suppose to move up when the next position is filled by a person with 20 yrs left in the work force and you know they aren't going anywhere? Do they mysteriously have an accident?

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[–] Moderately_soluble 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

Because they move up, because someone else moved up. It's very slow, but you don't expect to shoot to CEO in a day do you?

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[–] TrivialGravitas 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think you're wrong in the intention, what's happening is that both sides win half the time, and the people greasing the wheels make sure its the wins they want. Both sides are at the very least honest in their hatred of the other side, but the end result is a pretty ugly middle ground.

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[–] Firevine 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

Calling bullshit on that. Source: My life since October 2001

I lived in a pretty nice two bedroom two bath apartment living on part time pizza dude wages, by myself. I went out to eat, headed to the city to see bands, and all kinds of other fun stuff often. I lived in a nice one bedroom one bath in a great neighborhood on $10 an hour, 40 hours a week. My wife and I now live in a nice two bedroom two bath in the same great neighborhood on her teacher wages, and with me unemployed.

Could I have done this in downtown Atlanta? No, of course not. But out in the suburbs, it's easily doable. Put your fucking big boy pants on, learn how to budget, learn how to cook, buy a decent used car, quit being a whiny cunt, and get your shit together.

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[–] TrivialGravitas 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

10$/hr in 2001 money is 13.44$/hr in today's money.

So you successfully call bullshit, but by such a narrow margin that the broader point about abominably low wages in 2015 is made.

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[–] Firevine 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I was making $5.50 + tips in 2001, and since I was a pizza dude, I was using a lot of cheap at the time gas. I was also only working about 30 hours tops a week.

I was making $10 an hour last year.

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[–] watitdew 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Downtown Atlanta is probably one of the cheaper downtowns to do it in.

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