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[–] sumguy 15 points 24 points (+39|-15) ago 

That, my friend, is 100% a man picking the wrong woman.

I'm married, have been for 11 years and with my wife for 15. No kids (I knew I didn't want any from the time I was 13~14, hasn't changed in nearly 3 decades, not even budged), and we discussed that while dating. She also didn't want kids... Check. No real reason for my wife to Want to divorce me, she's the bread-winner bringing home all the money while I provide other services (I do 99.9% of the cooking, cleaning, 100% of the vehicle and home maintenance, etc... I take care of her physical and emotional needs, she provides the money). Since I consider her quite attractive, and our sex life has Always been better than anything I had while single, we're happy on an intimate level.

There is ZERO negativity, no lies, just a happy, healthy, loving relationship. The way it's Supposed to be when the guy isn't a complete fucking moron when it comes to picking a girl to spend their life with.

As for the positives? Cheaper taxes, cheaper insurance, untaxed retirement/death benefits (being able to roll over IRA type accounts without penalty), social security benefits for widowers, etc... There are a significant number of legal benefits that all add up to retaining more earnings. Other benefits (pooling buying power) can be done outside of legal marriage.

There is a silent majority of married who are quite happy with their situation, deal with no abuse, no lies, no poison, and no threats over money. It's all in picking the right person....

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[–] theoceansinthestreet 2 points 48 points (+50|-2) ago 

You're just describing a good relationship, not making an argument for marriage. Your relationship would exist with or without the marital contract.

The point is that many people could think the exact same thing you do! Until they get a high paying job and their wife suddenly has her "I want to fuck other people" phase. Things change. People change. Why take the risk?

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[–] juggernaut 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

wife suddenly has her "I want to fuck other people" phase. Things change. People change. Why take the risk?

sadly true

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[–] SirKeyboardCommando 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

You're just describing a good relationship, not making an argument for marriage.

As for the positives? Cheaper taxes, cheaper insurance, untaxed retirement/death benefits (being able to roll over IRA type accounts without penalty), social security benefits for widowers, etc... There are a significant number of legal benefits that all add up to retaining more earnings.

He did make an argument for marriage. Wether or not those benefits are worth it to a particular person is something else entirely, but there are good reasons to get married.

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[–] Namrok 1 points 39 points (+40|-1) ago 

I hate that "It's the man's fault for picking the wrong woman" answer. First of all, people change. Not always for the better. The right woman can easily become the wrong woman. Second, imagine if it was perfectly legal to beat and rape your wife, and people just said to women "Geez, looks like you picked the wrong man. My man is great."

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[–] MGTOW_Xui 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

It's always the man's fault.

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[–] Voat_a_Goat_Mamma 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Actually marital rape is legal.

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[–] Northvvait 5 points -3 points (+2|-5) ago 

No way. If you marry someone without knowing they have a predisposition to violence, then it's most certainly your fault.

So many people say "they changed as soon as the ring was on the finger!" but that's really just a deflection to avoid taking responsibility. If you truly didn't see all the signs, or jumped in without really understanding who you were pledging your life to, then you truly have poor decision making skills.

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[–] Bunny_Pope 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Why take the chance though? Why not just be in a relationship without signing a government contract, which almost directly states that the woman is going to get the better deal if either of you backs out?

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[–] turdovski 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

As for the positives? Cheaper taxes, cheaper insurance, untaxed retirement/death benefits (being able to roll over IRA type accounts without penalty), social security benefits for widowers, etc... There are a significant number of legal benefits that all add up to retaining more earnings.

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[–] sumguy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In my case? It was simple, either marriage or move on. I wasn't really interested but loved my SO enough that it was an easy decision to make her happy.

I take lots of chances in life... I've piloted airplanes, raced motorcycles, play with firearms... all of them calculated and worth the risks.

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[–] Voat_a_Goat_Mamma 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

My husband and I were going to go that route. One reason, children. In fact, it was the only reason we got married. He wanted to have legal say over the children I had out of wed lock. In our state, the only way we could cohabitate was to be married. also, awesome tax returns, but the kids were why we married.

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[–] Batmang 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

You're in a very rare marriage where the woman is the sole breadwinner. Most marriages aren't like yours