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[–] PraiseIPU 0 points 109 points (+109|-0) ago 

This has be proven multiple times. The dog takes a queue from the handler.

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[–] ForgotMyName 1 points 84 points (+85|-1) ago  (edited ago)

*cue. ;)

The dog thing has been complete nonsense forever but cops love it because it gives them a pretext to profile people and search their vehicles. Profiling and searching without a warrant are illegal. Throw a dog in there and suddenly it's totally okay. Nothing found? "Guess the dog must have just smelled some kind of residue." Total deniability for completely illegal actions.

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[–] Skwerley 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

At this point, however, probable cause for police is clearly a formality. It's like haggling, the seller already knows what he's selling the item for, he just starts higher and lowers it as a matter of ritual. Police now have learned they face (mostly) no discourse for doing whatever the fuck they want, so it's just a courtesy.

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[–] PraiseIPU 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

They could be standing in line.

Ya ever think of that?

A 1dog 1person line

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[–] Catsaber 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago 

In case anyone wanted more detail:

When handlers could see a red piece of paper, allegedly marking a location of interest, they were much more likely to say that their dogs signalled an alert. Indeed, in the two rooms where red paper was present and sausages were not, 32 of a possible 36 alerts were raised. In the two where both red paper and sausages were present that figure was 30–not significantly different. In contrast, in search areas where a sausage was hidden but no red piece of paper was there for handlers to see, it was only 17.

The dogs, in other words, were distracted only about half the time by the stimulus aimed at them. The human handlers were not only distracted on almost every occasion by the stimulus aimed at them, but also transmitted that distraction to their animals–who responded accordingly. To mix metaphors, the dogs were crying “wolf” at the unconscious behest of their handlers.

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[–] Zodi 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

In simpler terms: The cop wants to get inside the car and the dog picks up on it. The dog signals, which tells the cop "hey lets get in the car".

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[–] Grunge 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

yup, there have been video's posted of cops tapping on the window to trigger the dog so that they can search.

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[–] freedumbz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yup. It's only a matter of time before a clever lawyer gets a dog to "alert" on a judge or someone else in the courtroom.

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[–] lexsird 0 points 63 points (+63|-0) ago 

How about the right to face your accuser and cross examine them? Oh the dog isn't a person you say? Well if you shoot one, you are going to be charged as if you shot a human cop, so I guess that makes it a person.

Using the dog as a pretext for a search is not a witness swearing out a statement. It's a hoax, sham and a disgrace against justice. It's another nail in the coffin of a free society with democratic principles.

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[–] Sabactus 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Kind of like red light cameras. Haul the camera into court? I think not.

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[–] JackBadass 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Well if you shoot one, you are going to be charged as if you shot a human cop, so I guess that makes it a person.

Which is ridiculous. A dog is not a police officer, it's a tool. No different than a squad car. A dog can not take the same oath a human officer takes. A dog has no understanding of the law. A dog is a dog: that same thing in most people's backyard that eats it's own shit and, as we can all see, makes a habit out of barking at nothing.

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[–] lexsird 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It's not that I'm advocating blowing away police dogs, it's not the animal's fault. I like dahgs. You like dahgs?

It's damn annoying though the complete double standard of how if you blow away one of their dogs defending yourself, you get tried for killing a cop. Yet when these sons of bitches SWAT your home and they kill the family pet, they aren't charged with killing a person. How about when SWAT shot a Corgi in that one Missouri town? They raided a family in the middle of the night over a tiny amount of weed, dragging the kids, the wife and the guy out of bed, but not before blowing away one of the family dogs which was a Corgi.

If you don't know what a Corgi is, here's a pic, here's another, and lastly another.

Now in my opinion, if you are a pussy cop who has to SWAT a house in the middle of the night for a tiny bag of weed, and you are such a big fucking pussy that you have to shoot one of these little dogs in the process, you are a god damn piece of shit with absolutely no soul, and shouldn't be near any position of authority and frankly should be kicked off the fucking planet. Yet these soulless pig cocksuckers can blast your family dog with impunity, but their fucking dogs are OMFG holy sacred.

The great social contract is about fucked and soon to be shredded at this rate.

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[–] thatdamnchef 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

i LIKE** that logic.

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[–] AnTi90d 1 points 48 points (+49|-1) ago 

I've never seen a drug sniffing dog that did not alert when the police ran him over a vehicle.

Hell, this has been going on since the mid 90s. My family was searched twice on highway offramps while driving from Texas to Tennessee and back. They ran the dogs and then claimed the dogs alerted to something.. and then all five of us had to get out of the minivan and let the greasy fingered pigs paw through everything. Thank god we weren't traveling with money, or they would have legally robbed us with highway interdiction.

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[–] Senescence 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

That TX to TN drive is rough. On the way up I got caught in a speed trap in Louisiana. On the way down I got into a hit and run... Actually, just fuck Louisiana.

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[–] AnTi90d 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

We went north to Texarcana and then east, bypassing Louisiana entirely.

I still, to this day, have never set foot in that state.

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[–] LegoMyEgo 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

The first time I ever got pulled over was when I was sixteen and rolled through a stop sign. I ignorantly allowed them to run the drug dogs around my car. I didn't have anything illegal and luckily the dogs didn't alert. I guess I'm one the lucky few.

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[–] AnTi90d 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

In this town, they'll ask to search your car at almost every stop.

If you say no, they detain you, run the dogs, claim the dogs alerted and search your car, anyway. They'll remove your seats, take all your belongings out, lay them down at the roadside and leave you there, with all your shit by the roadside.

If you say yes, it's a 50/50 chance that they'll either lightly search your car without intentionally harassing you or they'll let you go and say that they just wanted to ask.

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[–] AnTi90d 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It was in 1994.

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[–] heili 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

Of course they provide a pretext for cops to search every car. These dogs are nothing more than four-legged probable cause inventors.

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[–] pico 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

I witnessed a police interaction last night which involved a drug-sniffing dog.

A woman was pulled over in front of my apartment, and I watched the entire incident through my window. The woman waited in her car while the officer waited for the K-9 unit to arrive. Upon their arrival, the woman was instructed to stand by the police cruiser while the dog was walked around the car. The dog quickly gave its signal, and the woman was handcuffed. The two officers from the K-9 unit then searched her car for 15-20 minutes but found nothing. The woman was released, and I didn't even see her get a ticket.

I couldn't tell if the dog was prompted to give the signal because they were on the side of the woman's car I could not see. Prompted or not, it was troubling to see a citizen's constitutional rights suspended because of a false signal from a drug-sniffing dog. She wasn't even given a field sobriety test, so I don't know why drugs were even suspected at all.

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[–] Skwerley 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Cops train the dogs. The same cops that look for any excuse to examine a vehicle. Of course the training has shifted. Those animals are not receiving the same level of training they were for anything besides subduing suspects.

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[–] airfish 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

You should know that in that situation, they can't make you wait for the dog to show up.

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[–] smokratez 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

You should look for child porn sniffing dogs as well. This media can't get much more retarded.

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[–] Mr_Sir 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Yes, that's the point.

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[–] AlkaiserSoze 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I have another surprise for the U.S. courts. When I pull a coin from behind a childs ear, I'm not really doing it. It's a trick. The coin isn't actually behind the childs ear.

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