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[–] hereforcoontown 14 points 153 points (+167|-14) ago 

For the idiots in the comments on the article bemoaning the USA's gun laws, the guns are already here. If there are guns in the USA, nothing short of going door to door taking them away is going to prevent the gun violence. That is about as likely as deporting all illegal immigrants that are already in the country.

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[–] refugee610 1 points 93 points (+94|-1) ago 

And going door-to-door would end in a lot of dead confiscators even if <1% of gun owners fought back.

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[–] BrownMoses 6 points 84 points (+90|-6) ago 

And going door-to-door would end in a lot of dead confiscators

As it should.

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[–] ThePieAssassin 1 points 33 points (+34|-1) ago 

And a lot of those would-be confiscators are probably law enforcement officials, who shockingly, are likely pro-gun.

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[–] strategic-gamingTV 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

no it would end in civil war. You will not pry the guns out of law abiding americans hands. You just wont do it.

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[–] DingleMyCringle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You're assuming it'd be enforced. I'm not even sure my state (IN) would recognize a federal gun ban. I know for a fact that the sheriff has gone on record as saying he wouldn't enforce such a law.

I don't see any trailer park or ghetto going for it either.

I can't imagine this going over well anywhere except a white or asian suburban area.

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[–] atw 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Also these kinds of crimes are an extremely small part of the country's homicide issue. They just get all the attention because the media likes sensational stories. The vast majority of people killed in America are gangsters in inner cities that already associate with their murderer, and are both criminals who likely bought their gun illegally in the first place.

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[–] snuutsboots 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Maybe we need more guns? Then someone could have stopped him.

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think the cameraman's last name is Ward. But it doesn't seem like a random shooting since he left the guest live. Either he was sleeping and got really angry the news crew woke him up, or he knew the reporter and was an ex.

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[–] President-Sanders 12 points 94 points (+106|-12) ago  (edited ago)

This is the best quality screen grab / video grab / shot of the shooting cunt

So he killed himself, and it turns out he was an SJW

He was sort of looking out to people to say things he could take offense to.

So he was an SJW - he killed Alison because "she made racist comments" "EEOC report filed" he was upset she was hired and "Adam went to HR on me after working with me one time".

SJWs have started to shoot people

So he's like a Julie Ann Horvath SJW bitter fucked up ex-mozilla kind of person. I bet we'll see some more SJW shootings soon.

The really fucked up thing he waits for the camera man to move back to frame the victim before he starts shooting.

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[–] Deathstalker 2 points 32 points (+34|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Edit: not the guy

~~https://i.imgur.com/6WvCw3O.png~~

Good article that broke the news before the other sites.

http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/lester-lee-flanagan-flanighan-flanigan-wdbj-tv-disgruntled-employee-virginia-shooting-suspect-cameraman-photos-video-chase-gun-gunman-arrested/

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[–] lukos 0 points 35 points (+35|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Not sure who downvoated you-

http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/lester-lee-flanagan-flanighan-flanigan-wdbj-tv-disgruntled-employee-virginia-shooting-suspect-cameraman-photos-video-chase-gun-gunman-arrested/

edit; Wow, it WAS the same photo you found, someone scrubbed it from all the news sites. The speed youtube and twitter are suppressing data is pretty crazy.

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[–] SarMegahhikkitha 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

His last tweet was "Alison made racist comments". He also tweeted this, which I guess means every place he's worked has been racist...

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[–] physicscat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Professional victim. Textbook "mass murderer." Feels inadequate...world out to get him....wants to be noticed...makes his killing public and sensational to "go out in a blaze of glory."

Asshole loser.

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[–] President-Sanders 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Shit, so it was a guy who worked at the station - fuck. Wow.

So jealousy?

SJW rage? "YOU DON'T WANT ME BECAUSE I AM FAT?!?!" that kind of thing?

Or reverse-rage? I don't know. Was there a note as to why he did it?

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[–] dv1155 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

If a shooter has one single link to the tea party, even having a similar name, it's the fault of the right wing and the republicans. Since he's a leftist... it's apparently still the fault of the republicans/right wing.

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[–] President-Sanders 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

TRIGGERED

Oh man, I just hope Trump wins, because fucking hell, it'll be lol!

With the Fed making games and laundering billions through Belgium, maybe with Saul Goodman's help, and China getting lol, and Mexico like, que?!!! and fuck, it'll be so lol. Trump will be lol.

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[–] Collapse_Impending 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

FROM SUICIDE NOTE: “Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them."

It is unclear whose initials he is referring to. He continues, “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!” He said Jehovah spoke to him, telling him to act.

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin.'"

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Flanagan had a troubled history with WDBJ and sued them in 2014, alleging discrimination, the Roanoke Times reports.

He was hired at the station in the spring of 2012 after working at stations in San Francisco and in Florida, North Carolina, Texas and Georgia. WDBJ let him go in February 2013.

In May 2014, Flanagan filed suit against the station in Roanoke General District Court, seeking money he felt he was owed and additional damages. His suit alleged discrimination by the station and named most of the WDBJ staff in his complaint, but in July 2014, the case was dismissed by a judge.

Over the past week, a Facebook page in the name “Bryce Williams” was updated to include silent video recordings of stories Flanagan worked on as Bryce Williams. One of the clips showed Flanagan in a gun store, holding a weapon.

Twitter has suspended the account running under the name Bryce Williams, where the user had recently posted the following photograph of a news story about Flanagan’s lawsuit against the station.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/aug/26/virginia-reporter-cameraman-shot-dead

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Flanagan has sued news station over alleged racism before, my colleague Jon Swaine reports, drawing on court documents from more than a decade ago.

In 2000 Flanagan sued WTWC, the NBC affiliate in Tallahassee, Florida, alleging he was sued after objecting to racism he encountered after joining the station the year before. He sought more than $75,000 in damages.

The lawsuit made several wild claims, including that in the summer of 1999 he was called a “monkey” by a producer and learned other black employees had been called the same.

Flanagan alleged that later that year a white employee told him it “busted her butt that blacks did not take advantage of the free money” available in scholarships to African Americans attending college.

He further alleged that a black criminal suspect was referred to as “just another thug” and that a black tape operator was told to “stop talking ebonics”. The lawsuit reached federal court in Florida. According to public records it was settled out of court in 2001.

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WDBJ7 station manager Jeff Marks has described Flanigan as “an unhappy man”.

“Vester was an unhappy man. We employed him as a reporter, and he had some talent in that respect and some experience, although he’d been out of the business for a while.”

“He quickly gathered a reputation as someone who was difficult to work with,” Marks continued, saying that he would quickly “take offense”.

“Eventually after many incidents of his anger coming to the fore, we dismissed him. And he did not take that well, we had to call the police to escort him from the building.

“Since then, well, he then filed an action with the Equal Opportunity Employment Committee in which he made all kinds of complaints” about the staff. Flanigan alleged that the staff had made “racial comments”, Marks said, but “none of them could be corroborated by anyone, we think they were fabricated.”

The complaint was dismissed, and although employees continued to occasionally see Flanigan “at the grocery store or something”, interaction was limited and rare, Marks said.

He added that Vicki Gardner, the third gunshot victim, has had emergency surgery and is in stable condition.

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[–] 721r 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

As sheriff Bill Overton noted, someone claiming to be Vester Lee Flanagan II, aka Bryce Williams, sent a fax to a news organization about two hours after the attack. My colleague Jon Swaine reports on the fax sent to ABC News.

The text of the 23-page fax claims the shootings were part of what the sender called a “race war”, according to the network, which said someone claiming to be Flanagan also called them on the telephone.

The document claimed the attack was intended as revenge for the June massacre by a white supremacist of nine African Americans in a church in Charleston, South Carolina, according to ABC.

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting,” he reportedly wrote, adding that he had paid a deposit for a gun two days after the church shootings.

Flanagan referred by name to Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old man who has been charged with the murders of those killed during the prayer group meeting. One section of the document was reportedly headed “Suicide Note for Friends and Family”. ABC News said it had passed the material on to the authorities.

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[–] President-Sanders 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yeah, he said she was racist to him, that Adam filed a complaint with HR against him, and he was a fucking complaining asswipe, always taking offense, like that subhuman fucked up scum that left mozilla recently and was chimed as a good thing. I've been saying mozilla were a bunch of SJWankers for about a decade now. Useless tosspots.

As Horatio would put it...

I guess he got...

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TRIGGERED

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[–] Germanic_Confederate 4 points 9 points (+13|-4) ago 

We need to make it a thing

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[–] Thisisnow1984 17 points 74 points (+91|-17) ago 

This isn't even on the front page of Reddit, boat you're getting better by the day

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[–] deific 0 points 41 points (+41|-0) ago 

Its been number 1 on /all all morning....

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[–] ddd 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

the /news thread was removed temporarily apparently

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[–] Messiadbunny 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

Reddit has changed around its algorithm for top posts recently. Which is why you see posts with 9k+ karma, they used to cap out around 3 - 4k. This allows things to stay at the top for longer so newer stories take longer to make it to the front page.

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[–] iDontShift 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

they aren't changing the 'algorithm'... they are manually editing that shit.

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[–] ddd 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

they made some changes to cause that, looks like reddit's digging its own grave https://reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/3ihow5/redditor_explains_why_we_all_heard_about_the_news/

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[–] rockpyle 7 points 70 points (+77|-7) ago 

SJWs everywhere are saddened that this wasn't a cis white male.

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[–] FrontierPioneer 1 points 58 points (+59|-1) ago 

https://twitter.com/Levi_Page/status/636572914238648320

Made multiple claims of racism, and the GM comes right out and says he "looked for things to take offense to". The loser WAS an SJW.

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[–] fartmachine 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

Years of being told he was constantly a victim of racism plus having CNN telling all black people that whites are evil probably helped him become a professional victim.

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[–] AlphaWookie 2 points 17 points (+19|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Yup everyone knows Dylan Roof's name but we can't know Vester Flanagan's. The narrative must be protected at all costs.

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[–] mamwad 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Who the fuck is Dylan Roof? Never mind, I don't care.

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[–] H8teraid 2 points 30 points (+32|-2) ago 

Link to video http://youtu.be/mERfG6PQGCo

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[–] Molo66 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago  (edited ago)

/v/morbidreality

Link of shooter's PoV: https://vid.me/NqC6

Thanks @Imdrasil

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[–] ThatsNoMoon 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

ugh. vertical video. the shooter is definitely a fucking scumbag.

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Don't you mean /v/watchpeopledie ?

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[–] Quawonk 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

How did the lady in white not see that?

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[–] NeptuneRises 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

That is absolutely fucked.

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[–] H8teraid 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Try this https://youtu.be/cl8okt4BuU4

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[–] H8teraid 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

https://youtu.be/cl8okt4BuU4

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[–] JJEvil 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

Rambling manifesto imminent. The guy looked like he was wearing body armor and shot 2 people on live TV. He's looking to go out in the most visible and bloody way possible.

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[–] JJEvil 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

I think the exact opposite of everything you just said is more likely.

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[–] AlphaWookie 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Double standard everyone can know Dylan Roof's name and his racism but don't you dare talk about Vester Flanagan and his racism. The national media narrative must be protected at all costs. I bet you can rattle off a list of mass shooters who happen to be white but can not name many black mass shooters. Think about that even though the latter group is more likely to engage in a mass shooting event.

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[–] dualityatme 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They don't have time to cover the trials because they need resources for the news that really matters, like this and this. Just a couple of the bits of hard-hitting journalism sitting at the top of the National News section in my app.

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[–] FnordX 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

http://nonadventures.com/2015/06/20/the-some-of-all-fears/

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[–] MeatPopsicle 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

6:45 am seems awfully early in the morning to try to go out in a blaze of glory. Or even be wandering around all crazy-like with a gun. It seems more likely that this was a targeted attack with a more personal motive.

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[–] JJEvil 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

They why do it on the air? If it were personally motivated, and the perp was carefully planning, wouldn't he have planned it with a better chance of not getting caught?

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[–] shitwandoba 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Well, you called that one: "ABC News reported that it has received a fax containing a 23-page manifesto from someone named Bryce Williams, the news outlet tweeted. The document has been handed over to investigators, ABC said." http://www.wdbj7.com/news/nation/virginia-tv-crew-involved-in-shooting/34924526

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[–] President-Sanders 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yes, that's what I came to say - look at what he is wearing - so what will this manifesto be about? Fucking jackwad - he'll be dead before the day is out but that doesn't seem like justice.

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