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[–] elgindelta 1 points 83 points (+84|-1) ago 

that would be awesome, if they uphold that.

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[–] watch_listed 2 points 98 points (+100|-2) ago  (edited ago)

She'll back out citing medical reasons before it ever gets that far. Remember a few years ago when she fell and busted her head and there were lingering neurological problems? I'd expect that issue to reappear before her ever allowing herself to face the sort of public humiliation that would result from her being barred from office. Consequences are for normal people, after all. This is the sort of thing that the White House could have quietly put to bed if the administration wanted, but there's no love lost between the present administration and the Clintons. It will go on until she goes away or is put away, and Biden will get the President's backing, connections, and fundraising channels. Maybe the investigation goes away after the Clinton Foundation writes a very large check to Biden's super-PAC and she endorses the VP's run for office.

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[–] elgindelta 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago 

upgoat for that insight, I think you may have just narrated the actual events. I did just hear that biden got obamas blessing on a 2016 run,

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[–] lexsird 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Biden will be yet another establishment lackey, so I can see the hand off happening. He's in the warm up pen as this is going on now. The 1%'s puppet show is so predictable.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They treated her for a blood clot in the head. Isn't that normally called a stroke?

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[–] the-code-always-wins 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'd expect that issue to reappear before her ever allowing herself to face the sort of public humiliation that would result from her being barred from office. Consequences are for normal people, after all.

Meh the same thing happens to normal people too. Employee does something horrible and is asked to resign instead of being fired.

We will all know the real reason.

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[–] usul 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

As much as I would love to see it, I don't believe Congress (via the US Code) can put restrictions on the presidency that aren't in the Constitution. Like they definitely couldn't say you had to be 45 or something like that. If course what do I know? The constitution is meaningless these days

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[–] Sylos 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You have to not be a federal criminal to become president...soooo hopefully there's that.

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[–] epsilona01 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Under American law, she is presume innocent untill proven guilty.

You are correct, she is rich and powerful.

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[–] 2drunk 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The only problem with that is the term "innocent until proven guilty" only applies to those that are rich and powerful.

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[–] Acerebral 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago 

There is a phrase that keeps cropping up in that law: "willfully and unlawfully".

This means she has two outs: first, she can claim it was an accident. Second, she can claim it was lawful. This is Hillary Clinton we are talking about. She is every bit as slippery as ol' Slick Willy and could probably combine that with her political connections to get a not guilty verdict.

The real issue here is the Republicans are playing it smart. They will hope she gets the nomination than nail her to the wall with this scandal. Whoever she runs against will walk into office.

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[–] MrPim 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago  (edited ago)

first, she can claim it was an accident.

Bullshit. There is no way any rational person can believe that this was an accident. This was purposeful in every way and from the beginning. You can't tell me she didn't know these laws from the beginning. That's willful. And if you want to try to make that argument, that makes her completely incompetent to hold that office. Because if she doesn't understand these things, her job is to hire lawyers and IT techs who do. And she didn't do that. She was either willfully ignoring laws, or is so stupid she cant hire a tech dept(or follow those the govt has in place) that she simply can't do that job. So which is it?

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[–] Acerebral 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You are making the classic blunder of thinking like a smart person. It IS obvious this was willful and unlawful to even the most basic person. But we are talking about what can be proved in court against a person with powerful friends.

So she will dodge the charges, and we can hope that ends her presidential run. But we all remember her dogged unwillingness to drop out of the race even when it was clear she wasn't going to win against Obama. So she will continue to run and she will spin this as best she can, turning her feigned confusion into victim status or some such BS. I only hope people see through it before she gets the nomination, as she would get hammered in the general if she makes it that far.

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[–] the-code-always-wins 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

There is no way any rational person can believe that this was an accident.

"What with a cloth?"

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[–] sneakybells 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Let's say she did willfully and knowingly disclosed state secrets. What would she gain from that? What's her motivation?

It makes absolutely no sense why anyone, especially her given her ambitions would try to jeopardize them and go to jail. I think she's absolutely incompetent. It just seems like you just have a hard on for anything anti-hillary even when it doesn't make sense.

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[–] Namrok 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Her rhetoric is definitely sliding more and more towards "Oops, did I do that?" Which is absolute supreme fucking bullshit. How the fuck is someone secretary of state and not understand how to handle classified material? I don't even work directly for the government, and we still get yearly briefs about how to work in a classified environment. I'd be in jail already if I did what she did.

There's a reason everyone who has to obey these rules is pissed she just disregarded them and doesn't give a fuck.

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[–] Ender1337 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Hopefully Trump. lol

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[–] Zorton 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agreed, the willful part is the big one here. Given the fun we would have if she had to drop out of the race due to a conviction under this law, it is unlikely to happen. Jail would be a bonus round but given her power, unlikely.

I am 180 degrees out of phase with Sanders but I think a race with him and a republican would be good for us. Not Hillary who can't be bothered to fix a departmental email system.

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[–] Betterkatethannever 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago 

You have a lot more faith in the American voter than I do, friend.

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[–] Kithsander 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

The American voter, by the constitution of the United States, has absolutely nothing to do with the Presidential election.

If the Electoral College fails to elect a candidate with, I believe, two thirds majority, the decision goes exclusively to the Speaker of the House. The members of the Electoral College have no legal binding to vote in any particular manner, and indeed their votes are usually cast before the tallies from their different districts are even close to being done. The Speaker of the House is also, just like the EC members, 100% protected from any sort of legal reproach and has no obligation to vote in any particular manner either.

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[–] lissencarak 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Putting a pin on this post so I can "told you so" when she does.

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[–] Werdd 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Legal loophole, it says HIS office. She ain't a his but a her.

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[–] barset 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Until she goes for the ol' genderbenderaroo' and runs a Hilstrom Clinton and gets elected by a landslide in light of the strong pro feminism climate.

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[–] sneakybells 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Werdd, this fucking retarded. That would NEVER hold up.

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[–] Werdd 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Hopefully not, but I wouldn't put it past her trying.

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[–] BeauDacious 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It will never get as far as actually impeding her.

Sadly. For there is no law for the rich and powerful that cannot be ignored in their special case.

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[–] iamrage 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Is it true. Yep. Will she be barred from holding office? vigorously shakes 8 ball: Don't count on it.

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[–] Keeok 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

they won't uphold that. People who call out on it will be either called stupid conservatives/republicans, sexists, or some other bullshit title to skirt around the real issue.

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