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[–] NateThomas1979 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago 

iirc mass shootings are a bigger issue in the US, but mass attacks are no more prevalent here than in other major countries. People use different weapons such as 29 people dying of a knife attack or similar.

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[–] DiggRedditVoatBlank 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Right. This is probably an important factor, along with access to public mental health. People are going to kill each other with whatever they can get their hands on, and in the US, it just happens to be guns.

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[–] Freakazoid 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If it weren't guns it would be homemade explosives like pipe bombs.

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[–] bloopton [S] 5 points 0 points (+5|-5) ago  (edited ago)

I think the point was if a killer is going to use something to try to kill lot's of people, he'll do more damage with an assault rifle than he would a knife or a broken bottle.

Edit: Why is this comment so controversial... I'm literally stating common sense, nothing idealogical, nothing that isn't supported by any respected research or statistic you can find.

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[–] thatsmrdickface 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That one example does nothing to prove your premise that "mass attacks are no more prevalent here than in other major countries."

Do you have a source for that claim?

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[–] NateThomas1979 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Read this article for a pretty good explanation on how while the US has more gun violence than other countries, it does not have some sort of exceptional violent atmosphere or extraordinary amount of mass attacks.

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[–] Voat_a_Goat_Mamma 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

What about the Guatemalan death squads I heard about growing up? Where whole villages were butchered.

I feel like I want to send the researchers this

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[–] bloopton [S] 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Are you really going to compare civil-war era Guatemala to contemporary American society? Is that the benchmark you think we should have?

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[–] bloopton [S] 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

I think the comparison is between industrialized, first-world countries with relatively high GDP's/standards of living. Comparing the U.S. to Yemen is unreasonable. Comparing the U.S. to Japan or Australia is slightly more reasonable.

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[–] lexsird 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Sarin gas in the subway is infinitely more horrifying than someone with a gun.

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[–] lexsird 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Exactly, this is just another anti-gun hit piece worded in a backhanded way. It's counting on the self centered idiocy of the readers to not count other parts of the world which people get shot to hell.

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[–] TH0UGHTP0LICE 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

More shootings in a country with firearms rights?

What's next? People with pools more likely to drown or people living on the coast more susceptible to tsunamis?

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[–] bloopton [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

America's mental health problem does not preclude it's firearms problem. Bringing up mental health is also needed, but does that make our unique firearms situation moot? I don't think so.

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[–] Possibly_a_Carrot 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago  (edited ago)

As so I. It's even mentioned in a lot of antidepressant med documentation that many can cause suicidal/homicidal thoughts as a side-effect.

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[–] lexsird 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Considering how many firearms are here it's damn amazing we don't have more shootings. Our gun culture has amazing discipline if you look at it statistically.

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[–] fistfullaberries 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Are you being sarcastic or are you making an argument?

It's like a title reading "Communities who let exotic pets roam free on the streets are 2000 times more likely to be attacked and killed by a tiger." Seems like a good argument for not letting tigers roam free in the neighborhood.

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[–] Capitol18 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Except there's no benefit to letting tigers roam around. Legal gun ownership not only doesn't statistically correlate with gun murder, it also prevents violent crime by way of defensive gun use. What we need to prevent mass shootings is far better mental health treatment, background checks, etc. Banning guns as a knee-jerk reaction like Australia did isn't the right idea.

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[–] Tsugumori 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Seriously. I don't really have much of an opinion on gun control (background checks good, felons and crazies with guns, bad) but this is an idiotic comparison. They need to include stabbings and whatnot and compare to the overall crime rate.

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[–] BoiseNTheHood 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Liberals:

> "Confiscate all 310 million firearms now!"

> "Trump is nuts! There's no way we can deport 11 million illegals!"

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[–] bloopton [S] 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I think you might be oversimplifying some peoples' positions a bit.

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[–] destinthegreat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not all liberals all like that anyway an ordinary liberal bill will be no guns to people with mental problems.

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[–] 33degree 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's because our culture has cancer.

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[–] Vancandybestcandy 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Like many American problems we are working on the best strategy to export it to your shores.

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[–] tolstoshev 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Is this what they mean by American exceptionalism? :)

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[–] you-dumbass 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

France seems to be working on that

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