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[–] makaw 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

And France too.

In fact one of Japan's really anti-immigration Prime Minister gaffed telling his elderly population to "hurry up and die" cause of the country's problems.

That's what makes the problem so difficult in those countries. the government doesn't like the mass of immigration any more than their populace but they're looking at the big picture. Either you drop the birth control or the elderly will dry you out.

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[–] Gracchi 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

That link doesn't explain anything. Much less take into account that there will be no jobs for additional children in the near future. The automated future will not support a large number of "economically productive citizens".


[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That Forbes article doesn't make much of an argument, it just asserts that it will happen.

We keep going on about how automation will eventually kill most jobs. The Japanese, who are certainly ahead of the curve on automation, may find that they can continue to have higher and higher productivity with fewer and fewer people.

Meanwhile the rest of the world will find the same thing, but they'll also find that they have vast numbers of surplus-to-requirements people causing problems.


[–] Kabuthunk 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't think a shrinking population would be all that catastrophic. There's already vastly more people of working age than there are positions which require a human operator, and technological progress will only widen that gap.

Unless a country starts kicking in Basic Income, the only other possible solution to that is a smaller population.