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[–] RunsWithScissors 20 points -1 points (+19|-20) ago 

All credible economists agree that (1) Japan has been in a slump for about 20 years, (2) the immigration heavy US has the highest, in absolute terms, PPP of industrial countries.

You want to see a country without immigration? North Korea is your role model. If you could, I'd recommend you move there: its ideology is similar to yours.

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[–] sp00kygh0st 5 points 20 points (+25|-5) ago 

You're an idiot if you think that Japan has been in a slump because of no immigration. Japan is in a slump because they listened to dumb leftist economists who told them that the only way to recover from their 1989 BOJ-induced bubble was to implement Keynesian Economics and now their suffering from a Liquidity Trap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidity_trap

You want to know a country that doesn't have any illegal immigration and is prospering while everywhere else is going to shit? Israel. Not fucking communist North Korea you mongoloid.

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[–] fsck 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

You are an idiot who thinks of self as really smart because you watch fux news.

You are spouting bullshit about keynesian economics like you heard it on fux news. Please stop.

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[–] h3lblad3 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

This is absolute bullshit. Israel suffers immigration problems from Africans who just keep coming.

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[–] RunsWithScissors 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Nothing makes me take you more seriously than starting off, and ending with, grammatically incorrect insults.

You realize that something like 50% of current Israelis were foreign-born, right? Not that that helps either one of our arguments: its PPP is around 50th in the world.

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

(1) Japan has been in a slump for about 20 years

A big problem is that economists like to measure total economic growth, not per-capita growth.

Adding more people is a great recipe for growth, but it doesn't actually make the individual people richer. Japan's economic growth looks stagnant because their population is decreasing, but their quality of life continues to increase.

Population growth is great for the class of people who own things for a living, not so great for those who work for a living.

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[–] RunsWithScissors 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Your logic is basically protectionism. It's the same logic that says we shouldn't import cars from Japan, because it's bad for the "workers."

That ignores the fact that trade, in general, makes us all wealthier. No one would really take seriously the idea that banning the importation of cars helps anyone but a handful of factory workers, or that banning the importation of labor helps anyone but a handful of low-skill American works; all at the expense of the rest of the country. A basic truism of economics is that trade is an arrangement that mutually benefits both parties. Hence, the more trade, the better. That includes not just capital, but labor.