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[–] iDontShift 10 points 57 points (+67|-10) ago  (edited ago)

it is almost like if you don't hire foreigners, they don't come to your country...

stop blaming immigrants for the immigrant problem... yes that sounds weird, but seriously if hormel, adm and every other big corp didn't hire them, love to hire them.... they wouldn't come.

btw, they don't just hire them for coming... they literally truck them in.. build houses for them... help them avoid deportation... and the cities just take it because... to complain would mean to be 'not politically correct' even though it has nothing to do with that... that is how they get labelled.

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[–] BoiseNTheHood 19 points 48 points (+67|-19) ago 

This line of BS is really getting old.

Fact: take the jobs away and they'll still come for the handouts.

Fact: illegal immigrants are knowingly breaking the law and deserve to be held personally accountable for it.

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[–] Aaaron 12 points 20 points (+32|-12) ago  (edited ago)

Fact: take the jobs away and they'll still come for the handouts.

It's interesting you state that as a rebuttal to him saying immigrants wouldn't be a problem if people didn't hire them. Then you come in and say that they take jobs away. I don't know how you aren't getting this but if companies didn't hire immigrants then they WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE JOBS AWAY.

EDIT: I misread but seriously, how would they come for handouts if they don't even have a job here? Contrary to what you hear on the news, getting welfare assistance isn't easy and you have to provide so much documentation it's ridiculous. Illegal immigrants without jobs here are not getting "handouts."

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[–] iDontShift 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

you really claiming that people with no power are responsible, while those that pay them aren't?

this line isn't bs, your line is.

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[–] RightHandOfTheGoat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why can't you both be right? The immigrants are coming for the handouts and the jobs. Just because they might come just for the handouts doesn't change the fact that US companies are knowingly hiring them. We shouldn't give them a pass and let them continue contributing to this growing problem. I say deport or jail them all.

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[–] Spiral_Out 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Exactly. In 2007-2010, in America, there were 8 million job losses.. but what they never tell you is that there were 8 million work visa's placed during the same time. PhD and other highly educated South Koreans, Indians etc are getting paid 30-35k for a job that used to pay their American counterpart 150-200k/years. It's the companies that are the problem.

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[–] iDontShift 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

thank you for the info on the visas, that is instantly verifiable evidence

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[–] Froztwolf 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Japan has a geographical "advantage" when it comes to this as well, in that they aren't a convenient destination for countries that generate a lot of refugees