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Police state

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[–] RottenSausage 2 points 30 points (+32|-2) ago 

a.k.a. Land of the free.

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[–] President-Sanders 1 points 22 points (+23|-1) ago  (edited ago)

police industrial complex.

They literally did this raid for $20 overtime bonus and a chance to grab some cash. They randomly take a bunch of people they have been looking for that week (hence their fuck up) have a person probably full time employed on a government leech salary type it out from the computer screen for them, they damage some equipment and peel out the tires a bit too, all to balloon budgets so their wages aren't so big in comparison.

This is literally the cops way of pulling out all your teeth so they can get the money from medicaid.

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[–] greycloud 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

the correct response is for the innocent to sue for millions. cut the shit out of that profit. i think any money paid to victims should come directly out of the FBI budget. if they have so many victims that they go broke than they shouldn't exist as an entity because they are just an enemy of the people. they are what the people should be protected from.

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[–] tonberry2 2 points 118 points (+120|-2) ago  (edited ago)

The fact that they were at the wrong house is only part of their incompetent and brutal blunder, however. These inept barbarians actually arrested Jackson 2 weeks prior to the raid!

This was the most shocking part of it. The person who they were looking for had already been arrested.

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[–] Stopped_clock 2 points 83 points (+85|-2) ago  (edited ago)

It's hard to pick out the worst part of this story to be honest.

  • The man they were looking for had court cases registered against his new address

  • a female officer was called to search the naked mum, even though they were looking for a man.

  • "we treated you with respect" said to mum as they left

  • According to records, police conducted absolutely no investigation, or surveillance prior to the raid.

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[–] MeatPopsicle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

"we treated you with respect" said to mum as they left

I don't understand this at all. Just because you say it, doesn't make it so. Why would they even say this? In whose mind is this respectful treatment, anyway? It just sounds like wishful thinking, to me.

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[–] SkyWest1218 1 points 29 points (+30|-1) ago 

Damn, that actually made me cringe a little. How does a mistake that big even happen?

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[–] OneOutOfMany 1 points 47 points (+48|-1) ago 

Incompetence mixed with a lack of accountability.

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[–] kittenpoo 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

There could not have done ANY investigation before terrorising that family. They were working from intelligence that was at least 6 months old.

The whole thing is sickening. I hope she sues the arses off them.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 1 points 18 points (+19|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It's really the problem. They actually honestly truly believe that they are protecting america. Blaming the police on the street is like blaming the Iraq war on reservists, sure they're responsible for the actions on the ground but they're clearly not smart enough to have orchestrated it all.

The responsibility is with the leaders behind the War on Drugs, and owners of private prisons, and authoritarian politicians. The senior people enabling this need to be in prison.

Edit: I am in no way shape or form saying we shouldn't aggressively go after corrupt police officers. "A few bad apples spoil the bunch" and the justice system should put those fuckers against a wall, literally.

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[–] GeminiK 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I think a fiction quote is applicable here. "I've been at the mercy of men just following orders before, charles." Also IIRC the Bush administration said that you can not escape war crimes by claiming you were "just following orders" which means that everyone down to the street cop is just as responsible as the precinct captain, to the judge.

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[–] 2008763? 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I think private prisons are a symptom, they followed the massive incarceration rates of the War On Drugs. So did the increase in police militarization and assett forfeiture. Once they had those things, now they have an interest in keeping them going and expanding them.

They were effect not a cause though now I expect its hard to tell the difference.

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[–] cmor88 2 points 33 points (+35|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I'm usually not quick to blame the police, but based on what I read from this potentially biased article.. There is no excuse for this blunder. Its unacceptable, these people are supposed to be professionals. We can't expect perfection, but at least the police should get the right house and the right occupants. In this case I hope the judge tears the department a new asshole.

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[–] mrcanard 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Don't like that article? Try this one, http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/08/22/swat-team-raids-wrong-worcester-home-residents-say/

http://www.telegram.com/article/20150821/NEWS/150829750

It's irresponsible acts like this that cast the police in a bad light nation wide. Time for them to lay down their arms and put on a camera.

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[–] YourDickGotTheHIV 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Your bar is the right house with the right occupants? That's still a low bar.

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[–] tylahedras 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The judge that issued them a warrant for a no-knock raid? He's just as culpable.

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[–] ThomK 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The Newpapers should be naming every one of those officers, and the judge.

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[–] hatesniggasandfags 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

SWAT is not cops. Get your facts straight.

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[–] zamadatix 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Sure they are, SWAT units are subunits of a police department and cop is just another name for police officer. Usually you have to serve a minimum number of years as an officer before you can be moved to this special police unit. Here is the LA Police SWAT page for reference http://www.lapdonline.org/inside_the_lapd/content_basic_view/848

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[–] ragnnohab 9 points -3 points (+6|-9) ago  (edited ago)

Most people can tell that police aren't one person and judge case by case. Like any rational person would.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

If you apply for a job, get up and train, put on the uniform for, receive a paycheck from, and conduct armed operations with a group of people known for this violent behavior against Americans you can't suddenly say "I'm one of the good ones, treat me individually".

Name any other group that can do that... the KKK, the KGB, Stasi, Black Panthers, Iraqi Army (1990)? I can wait...

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[–] fek_sinjoro 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I can and will judge ALL COPS until the "good cops" stop the the bad cops from brutalizing innocent people. Where the fuck are the good cops? Why don't they stop the bad cops?

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[–] Tsugumori 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

When good cops are being pressured by the majority for whistleblowing... Well, forgive me for generalizing.

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[–] isibjimbo 3 points 20 points (+23|-3) ago 

Disgusting this is not the America I grew up in. If she had the means of protecting herself she would if not outright being killed gone to jail for assaulting police. I hope she can sue the shit out of them and better yet have them all charged and sent to jail.

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[–] merton 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I hope she can sue the shit out of them and better yet have them all charged and sent to jail.

here is your answer:

this is not the America you grew up in

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[–] isibjimbo 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You're Right

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[–] atvoat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

and who pays for those?

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[–] AlkaiserSoze 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Special Weapons and Tactics were originally created by the Philadelphia Police Department in response to an increase in bank robberies but it received most of its fame in LA due to the use of the team in regard to gunmen (typically associated with the drug cartels and gangs) and the riots of the 60s.

Just to reiterate, the force used against this home were designed to fight heavily armed gang members and to quell riots. After such incidents on the West Coast were handled, the SWAT forces were repurposed for use in the War on Drugs, which was a logical use considering drug cartels/gangs were heavily armed.

Now we move on to today, where SWAT is commonly used in the attempt to catch criminals who may or may not have a gun. If there is the slightest risk that the suspect may have a weapon, these guys are called in. Due to the fact that police departments often have trouble with communication and the frequency of use in regard to the SWAT teams, canceling an order for a raid due to misinformation is unlikely to happen often enough.

Now we see this story. A story where a naked woman and her children are brutalized by what is essentially what SWAT was designed to face: heavily armed thugs.

I see a lot of talk about police state when these stories come up but this isn't quite the same thing as a police state. This is a poorly managed gang. If this was a police state then they would have been raided based on what the woman wrote about the police on Facebook. These are inept pseudo-soldiers who cannot get clear lines of communication and most likely do not care.

I will not stand for the elimination of the police as that is not a solution. However, breaking apart these state-approved gangs and restructuring them properly is a reasonable solution. It is not one which will come easily, by any means.

Picture this: if a big city PD decided to go rogue all at once, it would literally take the military to remove them. Countless lives would be changed for the worse and the tax payers would foot the bill for damages, restructuring of the police force, the cost of military use, and the lawsuits which entail the aftermath. The system has failed the general populace. While this isn't a police state, it isn't much better than one.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

50,000 to 80,000 SWAT raids a year... we do not have 50,000-80,000 mass shootings and bank robberies a year. Stasi fucks.

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[–] Tea_I_Am 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

A SWAT warrant should be required. The standard for the warrant should be very high. The police seeking the warrant should have to show why SWAT is needed, prove that surveillance was done, explain why it needs to be pre dawn, etc.

Picking up some puke who dodged an arrest warrant is never, alone, justification for this.

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[–] AlkaiserSoze 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I agree completely. Opponents of this idea would state that any time used to obtain that warrant would simply "put more lives in danger" or that it would "limit the ability of the police". These are the same tired arguments that get used whenever there is talk of more oversight for police or more accountability. The militarization of police was a poor decision which may not be reversible, honestly. They should have never received military equipment.

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[–] fuckudatswhy 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Maybe it's because this creeped up slowly, but if you think about it, this is the stuff you see in the dystopian future movies.

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[–] tibstibs 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Tuttle, Buttle, what's the difference?

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

This is how this happens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

Slow increments over a long period of time, but eventually you have to hit boiling point - and that kills the frog.

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