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[–] wuzizname 2 points 20 points (+22|-2) ago 

Unfortunately, as logical as your conclusion is the opinion has become unpopular and labelled as racist. We need to have the ability to have open and honest dialogue about the issue without fear of being white-washed (no pun intended) as racists or genocide supporters.

If there is no plan to socialize and integrate migrants into our society, it will be a disaster.

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[–] wrongway 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Why do so few people ever seem to ask themselves why developing countries standard of living is so far behind the West. The short and simple answer is culture. We in the west have something few in the developing world seem to possess and that is trust. We can trust if we make a deposit in a bank it will still be there tomorrow. We can trust if we do a days work we will be paid for that service, we can trust if we go to the police for help they will not kidnap us and hold us for ransom. If there is an injustice we can trust in the justice system to correct it. There are always exceptions but by in large our system works because most people are honest and we have an established culture of trust. The same cannot be said in much of the developing world.

We have laid a blueprint to a functional high standard of living society. The rest of the world just needs to follow suit. There is obviously more to it than just trust but trust, I would wager, is one of the single biggest factors to a better standard of living. When we invite in large groups from the 3rd world and don't ask them to adapt it drags our quality of life down to the places they came from. When I was a kid most people I knew didn't lock their doors at night and burglaries were exceptionally rare, now that is almost unheard of. I'm all for helping the developing world improve it's standard of living but I think if you don't address the root cause (lack of trust and honesty) the developing world will never improve to our level. Foreign aid money would be better spent on free schools to teach the importance of being honorable and educate people on entrepreneurship as well micro loans and support to help people start their own businesses. There was a good Ted talk proving how immigration from the developing world will never fix the problem and just drag us down in the process due to the shear number of people involved.

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[–] smokeu 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Am I the only one that notices that all these "migrants" are fighting age men? Where are the women and children?

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"It is what they [immigrants] do in Sweden that is Sweden"

-A Former PM of Sweden

*note how that's not on /r/Europe but rather /r/European

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[–] Sosacms 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'd rather migrate more military into those unstable areas than migrate the refugees out.

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[–] Meinhof_was_right 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Except that you wouldn't even be talking about the "stabilization" if not for the darn mass migration, much less doing something about it, would you?

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[–] TheBuddha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yes. Why do you ask? I think it should be an effective UN action and not a single country or even a small group of countries that take action. I was in Bosnia, Serbia, and Croatia while assigned to the UN. All things considered, I think the UN did a fine job in that instance. More of that would be excellent.

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[–] Frums 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Europe remain Christian

France is a laic country. We don't want any form of cult taking the moral leading of our republic, christianity included.

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[–] crusade 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The morals of all the western world are solidly Christian, whether the people are Christian or not.

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[–] canadian_apistevist 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Europe remain Christian

Well anything but their political form of Islam. So that would include secularism and your kind of Islam too.

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[–] dildonkers 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Go back to reddit and be a cucked dhimmi there, dude.

Europeans deserve to save their countries for Europeans without SJWs going apeshit about racism.

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[–] ForgotMyName 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I've posted this before but let me tell you - There's a word for unchecked immigration: Invasion.

There is a reason countries have immigration laws. Unchecked immigration is disastrous for everyone involved. You have a massive influx of people with no correlating massive increase in available housing, jobs, hospitals, roads, schools, etc. These people may, or may not be paying taxes at the same rate as the rest of your citizens depending upon your nation's laws and the legality of their immigration. These people may or may not speak the native language in the country. You now have an entire subset of the population which is not only unfamiliar with your culture, customs, and laws but are also incapable of learning them because they're all written in a language they don't know.

You nation's laws were created by a group of people with a common culture to cater to their needs (freedom, security, etc). When you suddenly introduce an entirely new people-group you suddenly find yourselves dealing with heretofore unimaginable problems. Issues which would have never existed in your native culture.

You can't allow things like this to happen without dire consequences. There is a reason most countries have a very long process in order to gain citizenship. There is a process through which you are naturalized to that nation. Mass immigration defeats this process entirely.

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[–] Sydviciouz 7 points 28 points (+35|-7) ago 

I'd vote no more migration as well. Same for the U.S.

It's proven to be a terrible idea.

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[–] bilog78 10 points 26 points (+36|-10) ago 

I'd vote no more migration as well. Same for the U.S.

It's proven to be a terrible idea.

On the contrary, it has proven to be extremely successful. In fac, the U.S. wouldn't exist without it.

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[–] guinness2 5 points 54 points (+59|-5) ago 

Let's be honest: the vast majority of UK adults are simply sick of Muslim refugees and their violent, pedophile ideology.

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[–] ShinyVoater 1 points 28 points (+29|-1) ago 

How do you say "limitless immigration is harmless" in Cherokee?

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[–] WolfPackNigga 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Don't you understand? They just don't want non-white immigrants. Also most of the hate is towards specifically Muslims. Governments made a mistake by letting in unskilled non-white immigrants, they come from a bad background and are not educated. That's why they get so much hate. Had the government only let skilled educated Muslim immigrants, I'm pretty damn sure they wouldn't have such a shit reputation.

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[–] Aetrion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There is a huge difference between having an immigration policy that lets people in when you need them and an immigration policy that lets people in who just want to leech all your social services without paying back into them.

Especially in Europe where stuff like healthcare, housing, basic income etc. are provided for for just about anyone it's a huge problem if you have people coming in expecting to be payed for but with absolutely nothing to contribute to the system that makes paying for those things possible.

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not at all. Immigration can be great.

Immigration of people from better cultures into worse cultures improve the worse culture. Immigration of people from worse cultures into better cultures is the problem.

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[–] G4 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Migration to where? Who's migrating?

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[–] guinness2 5 points 20 points (+25|-5) ago  (edited ago)

And 20% of UK adults want more Muslim immigration and more domestic violence and more child brides and more FGM and the public murder of blasphemers and apostates and homosexuals for Allah.

Allahu-Akbar!

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[–] CarlosShyamalan 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

40% actually according to the statistic cited in the article.

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[–] dildonkers 5 points 3 points (+8|-5) ago 

So many cucked SJWs.

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[–] ThisWeirdIndividual 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

more FGM

Because MGM is never a problem .

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[–] didntsayeeeee 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Aww not this shit again

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[–] shmuklidooha 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED FROM POSTING IN /R/EUROPE

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[–] CarlosShyamalan 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

40% think that the UK has an obligation to help immigrants

79% think that it doesnt have any obligation

70% think the crisis is puting national identity at risk

55% think willingness to help is part of being british

76% think the UK does more than most countries when it comes to immigrants

66% are proud to live in a multicultural society

76% think the government is too soft on immigrants

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[–] CarpetDime 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago  (edited ago)

"40% think that the UK has an obligation to help immigrants

79% think that it doesnt have any obligation"

Uh, shouldn't these two add up to 100%?

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[–] CarlosShyamalan 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think they were separate questions.

The UK has a moral obligation to help immigrants? 40% agree. 60% disagree

The UK has no moral obligation to help immigrants? 79% agree, 21% disagree

They either asked a different group of people or its because they also differentiate between strongly agree and strongly disagree or something. Its all in the data that the article links to.

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[–] hatesniggasandfags 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Someone failed at Venn diagram questions.

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[–] dimonte 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Either someone screwed up while processing the results, or pollers managed to uncover a very large group of violently bipolar people.

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[–] tork87 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

UK liberals are some of the most delusional and pompous dumbasses I've ever seen.

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[–] fuck_communism 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

And the other 20% are Pakis.

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