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[–] Kleyno 2 points 162 points (+164|-2) ago 

I would ask if the average American wants yet another political leader who does not understand how things work digitally, in our current, digital age?

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[–] wikibebiased 0 points 120 points (+120|-0) ago 

When Hillary Clinton decided to have a "private e-mail" server. She knew implitclty and explicitly what she was doing.

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[–] ShaHadien 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago 

This was exactly the question I came away from this video with as well. But I also have to wonder if a lot of these people aren't actually faking their own ignorance. Many of these people have the best educations that money can buy, and I find it very hard to believe that they have no clue how the technology they use every single day works.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 1 points 32 points (+33|-1) ago 

I have a family member with a master's degree in library science. The only problem is she got it in 1980. She can't use a computer to save her life. These people bought good educations, but they're by no means current. They went to school when they had to sign out time to use the calculator.

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[–] HowieCameUnglued 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Well, she did put the server in a bathroom.

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[–] RabidRaccoon 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This was exactly the question I came away from this video with as well. But I also have to wonder if a lot of these people aren't actually faking their own ignorance

It's plausible deniability - Reagan and Nixon did it too. Anything which could be construed as criminal is supervised by someone they trust to a) do it and b) not tell anything incriminating. So if it leaks they can claim to not know anything about it.

It's like in the mafia. The Don if subpoenad can testify truthfully he didn't know the details of what the Consigliere did. However the Don made sure the Consigliere was someone he really trusted to act in his interests.

E.g. in Watergate Nixon probably didn't know the details of the break in. That being said the he did trust the people he appointed to do what was necessary and keep him out of the loop about anything illegal. Same with Reagan and Iran Contra. And it worked for Reagan - Oliver North took the bullet for him.

It's one of the unwritten rules of US politics. Another one is that you're not finished as a politician until your own party turn on you. Which happened to Nixon but not to Reagan. Will it happen to Clinton? I've got a feeling that the current scandal may have broken too late to damage her chances at the nomination. I.e. unless the FBI find evidence of criminality really soon and can link it to her rather than an underling she's probably going to be the Democrat candidate. Mostly because no one inside the party thinks that Sanders could win and Hillary still has a decent chance. Of course if she's POTUS she can't be impeached for things she did before she was elected. So in practice she'd get away with pretty much anything, especially in today's hyper partisan environment.

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[–] physicscat 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

She's not stupid. She is absolutely faking ignorance. She wouldn't know the truth if it sat on her face at this point.

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[–] Melcher 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Exactly. She's either lying or too dumb to be President.

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[–] heili 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

She's not someone who doesn't understand what wiping a server clean means. She absolutely does. That remark was a deflection dance and nothing more.

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[–] FireTheCat 1 points 122 points (+123|-1) ago 

Either she's too technologically ignorant to be president, or she's a criminal.

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[–] Firinmahlazer 0 points 58 points (+58|-0) ago 

That's exactly what I was thinking. It's 20 fucking 15 if you can't understand the basic function of a hard drive you are too incompetent to run the country. But I'm sure she knows how it works and she's lying about it to try and distance herself from the situation but all she's doing is making herself sound like an idiot.

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[–] DaBeetus 5 points -1 points (+4|-5) ago 

big leap between knowing how something functions, and running a business - which is what the US is from my outsiders perspective.

all she needs to do is get the management position, then get plebs with the know how to do the dirty work. sure, she'd be a big step down on modern tech knowledge from obama, who's quite adept at social media, but then, i'm sure he was trained by his staffers (and his daughters) to get to that point. what's to say she can't be trained?

all that being said: she's not as dumb as she's making out.

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[–] CatNamedJava 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

When you are that high up, you outsource a lot of the tasks to assistants. So it not really a stretch for her to be out of the tech loop. That being said this whole situation falls into she should know better, or at least, hired people who should know better.

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[–] ninjai 8 points -3 points (+5|-8) ago 

Let's give her a break. Not everybody knows the same things, and it's not a big deal if she doesn't know that a hard drive is a smoothie machine.

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[–] green_man 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Probably both, and most likely a criminal for more things than just her email server. How many times has the public been told that ignorance of the law is no excuse?

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[–] ScreaminMime 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

She was technically aware enough to have the server wiped clean, not just merely erased, prior to turning it over.

She should be in jail until this gets straightened out just like you or I would be.

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[–] spacebob 0 points 47 points (+47|-0) ago 

“Any personal emails are my personal business, right,”

I wish the ordinary man could say the same.

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[–] Ifaptocomments 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Someone should tell her what the FBI says about American's personal email.

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[–] spacebob 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I think she knows well enough, but it just doesn't apply to her.

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[–] kjell 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's why she got the hell out after that question.

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[–] nastymutant 0 points 46 points (+46|-0) ago 

Just watched the clip. She is blatantly lying. Certainly.

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[–] Peglius 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

American Politicians don't dare tell the truth, EVEN ONCE, lest we see the difference

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[–] AreWeHuman 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

And funny how she decides to walk out right after "answering" that question...

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[–] z_impaler 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Interesting insight. You have me curious though. You've described a woman I know from my past. She is very successful. She holds a law degree. I won't name any other degrees because she works for a very well known firm and I don't want her to be identified (or her coming after me.). Anyway, she was one kinky chic. She liked to be tied up and all sorts of other things. When I ended things with her, I came to the conclusion that she was Borderline Personality. She didn't take it well at all. I was seeing a therapist at the time. The therapist knew about this woman (through my sessions) and said to be prepared when I broke up with her because some of the other details that I shared with her, my therapist suspected that she might be BP. Anyway, she also said that the only way to get her to leave me alone would be to "play dead" just like one would if a bear was attacking. Eventually, because, I was an "object" to her, she would lose interest and find someone else. I gotta say, my therapist was spot on. To say it was scary was an understatement. Gives me the heebee jeebees just thinking about it. Does BP go hand-in-hand with being a Sociopath?

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[–] KrabsOnSecurity 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No. Parts overlap. Especially abuse. The borderline person might actually have a need for you and get attached and unattached. It's back and forth but the feelings are real. The sociopath has no emotional attachment to you and you are just fulfilling a want/need such as sex, amusement, money, and so on. This can be back and forth too but their feelings for you are feigned. I hope that makes sense.

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[–] DaBeetus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

sociopaths end up being leaders in their chosen fields: murder, and leadership. the best leaders tend to share the same psychological profiles as many serial killers.

edit: words failed, had to try again

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[–] merton 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

One thing that is fairly common is their response when fully confronted about their sociopathy. Look for videos of Mitt Romney losing his temper. They truly do not believe in compromise or admitting fault.

You are missing the point. Any politician that admit fault is committing political suicide. It's the same thing in court: no body will go out there and say they are guilty.

Doesn't mean that anyone that commit a crime and don't say they are guilty are psychopath.

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[–] Disappointed 0 points 30 points (+30|-0) ago 

This woman is no leader.

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[–] DaBeetus 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

maybe once, she might have been, but no longer.

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[–] el_em_en_oh 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

THIS

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[–] Dumpsterjuice 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Wiped it? You mean, like with a blue dress?

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[–] lettersofmarque 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

That would be EPIC! Where's the guy from the National Enquirer when you need him?

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[–] Microcosm 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

How is it possible this is not the top comment? Bravo!!!

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[–] ninjai 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And let's get one thing straight. No way was there only "an email server". Need some redundancy up in that bitch somewhere, there had to be more than one server.

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[–] RedditSucksNow 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

If it had an encrypted filesystem, you could store it anywhere, because physical access wouldn't help attackers get at the data, but I suspect it didn't have an encrypted filesystem.

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[–] ninjai 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

because physical access wouldn't help attackers get at the data

Hm... well, yes it would. Mani n the middle attacks, rearranging the path the email takes to get to the server can definitely help more than it can't. Among other things.

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[–] freedoms 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

All encryption means is that an attacker can't just walk away with the harddrives. What they can do is installing physical surveillance equipment. Keyloggers, cameras, stuff like that. It can also be possible to insert a fake usb memory. When the computer turns on it tells the computer it is a keyboard, and uses hotkeys to download a virus.

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It would also need encrypted transmission with securely transferred one-use keys because she's a top SIGINT target around the globe. I guarantee you she sent those emails plain text across the open internet.

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