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[–] basementdweller94 6 points 94 points (+100|-6) ago 

YouTube has had a policy on violence in general for quite some time now. Or at least I thought.

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[–] ButcherOfBlaviken 3 points 54 points (+57|-3) ago 

yeah when you want to upload violent videos you either go for worldstar, or liveleak depending on how violent it gets

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[–] 1F4A9 2 points 48 points (+50|-2) ago 

FTFY: yeah when you want to upload violent videos you either go for worldstar, or liveleak depending on how violent it gets how ghetto you are

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[–] flyawayhigh 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

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[–] Upvoats_McGoats 3 points 15 points (+18|-3) ago 

Nope. There are tons of fatal car crash videos and as many street fight videos as you could ever want.

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[–] basementdweller94 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

I think it's okay so long as it's not gory or sensationalized. Source

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[–] Kotoran 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I've favorited a lot of these, and they all get deleted eventually. It's just a matter of when.

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[–] 1smartass ago 

There's massive deleting of high school fight videos. Principles, teachers, school security guards, and some parents make it a routine to search and send in complaints about fight videos from schools.

I used to have a long list of school fight vids from my So Cal area, some that were going on in my neighborhood. My local school makes sure they get flagged when they turn up.

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[–] bilog78 ago 

Immigration is a tool of genocide

As the Native Americans know so well.

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[–] Cid 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yep, they've been removing all kinds of fight videos for years. This should be common knowledge by now. This link is garbage for so many reasons too...

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[–] rape_train 6 points 86 points (+92|-6) ago  (edited ago)

Just a heads up: WND is totally garbage and 90% of what they post is flat out wrong.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/stunner-whistleblower-claims-feds-hiding-vaccine-autism-link/

That's on the top of their site right now.

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[–] RunsWithScissors 7 points 8 points (+15|-7) ago 

Agreed. WND.com = downvoat, don't click.

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[–] thelordofcheese 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

Except in this case this is EXACTLY what YouTube would do. Remember the comments critical of the ABC GamerGate hitpiece?

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[–] cwt 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

We're Nuts Daily

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[–] iridescentcosmicslop 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Literally less accurate than The Onion.

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[–] Turbo_Sloth ago 

I think as a site Voat needs to be more scrutinizing about the sources providing news. I feel like we upvoat because of the headline without checking credibility and it can make our views as misinformed and slanted as Fox News watchers but on the other end of the spectrum

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[–] rape_train 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Voat shouldn't be doing anything about it.

People who submit and vote on content should make sure it's not bullshit.

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[–] Balrogic 1 point 28 points (+29|-1) ago 

This is stupid. Do we really need proof that racism exists, even in black people?

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[–] TruthSemen 4 points 41 points (+45|-4) ago 

But this isn't just racism, this is racially motivated violence -- and often planned and orchestrated black-on-white mob violence at that. The media doesn't want to touch it, but it's happening with increasing frequency around the U.S.

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[–] Pm-me-your-boobs 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I don't know if it's happening MORE frequently like you said, but it is a pandemic none the less. There's a great sub dedicated for all the black violence that gets censored back at reddit called /r/blackcrimematters

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[–] djsumdog 6 points 4 points (+10|-6) ago 

I hadn't heard of this guy before. The trouble is the issue is more complicated than this. It's not violence because they're black. For the past few decades, we've left the ideals of the great civil rights movements that wanted a better world with better education, and have watched black culture dive into the same bucket as the white poor.

A lot of it is systematic. There are subtle pushes in the system, both from media's portrayal of black culture being based around drugs and violence, and from the self perpetuating criminal system that stems from it. But it's not because they're black. If you look at African people in Australia, in Europe...anywhere else in the developed/high-income world..and you don't see the same violence, lack of education, etc. From my time living in Australia, I noticed that black culture from African immigrants was so amazingly different that it was rare to see the same kind of discrimination against them that we see in the US.

It's a very complicated issue. There's violence, because there is a continual set of culture, laws and suppression to raise people to be poor and salves; to love the myth of the American dream and to believe they do can maybe someday be like the 1% capitalist masters.

Basically, I think this guy adds to the problem by oversimplifying it. Should black people be in angry violent mobs? Absolutely not. But it's a symptom of a much bigger problem. It's not because they're black. It's how American culture is shaping black society.

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[–] Cightline ago 

We need to create our own media.

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[–] milliamp 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Sort of only because the media is very 1 sided and downplays black on white violence while wearing out coverage of white on black violence.

For people who only form their opinions from the news (that is actually a lot of people) they have no idea what the actual reality of the situation is. Black on white violence and murder is significantly more common than the reverse. Many/most people legitimately don't understand this is a major problem because the national media generally won't go anywhere near covering it.

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[–] thelordofcheese ago 

Black people can't be racist! #DearWhitePeoople

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[–] refugee610 2 points 21 points (+23|-2) ago 

This is /v/news, not /v/conspiracy, why the hell are WND post allowed here? They're slightly more accurate than Weekly World News.

Also, youtube as a graphic violence policy and has had for years. This isn't news either.

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[–] theoldguy ago 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=graphic+violence

If you can't be bothered to sign in, or you're too young to view the ones that say "This video may be inappropriate for some users." then change the URL from (example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ZbqY3Lqdw to https://www.youtube.com/v/59ZbqY3Lqdw .

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[–] djsumdog 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Part of the problem on the site we won't name's news sub was blocking a lot of sites because they were blogs or not legitimate enough...and what defines legitimate usually had to do with the mainstream. We saw only the mainstream sites get through, sites we know today are subjected to pressures by both advertisers and governments. It's not a conspiracy to realize much of our free media is propaganda. Not just in the States, but in the EU and AU as well.

Even though they report everything, things are weighted and constantly presented in a way to generate certain public opinion or dismiss dissent. Fluff pieces helped keep eyes away from real issues.

Even with all that being said, sites like Natural News and Prison Planet are often downvoted even in the conspiracy sub and they pretty obviously garbage sites intended to make the same type of money off morons who will believe anything they read in a tabloid. They're sensational and crap.

The danger is modding the news subverse in the way the subreddit was modded; killing off reports and shaping the news into the same narrative presented by the mainstream.

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[–] refugee610 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

But on the flip side, allowing trash sites like NaturalNews, PrisonPlanet, Zerohedge, WND, etc. is that it de-legitimatizes the content of the sub as a whole. I can see allowing news sources that trend to one side or the other, but once they start reporting factually incorrect statements as news I think they need to be moderated out.

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[–] p0ssum 32 points 11 points (+43|-32) ago  (edited ago)

Good LORD Im am sick of all this thinly veiled racism that is starting to permeate this site. Could you keep your output to v/coontown and v/niggers, if I wan't to see it, really, I'll go looking for it.

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[–] Hawk 3 points 52 points (+55|-3) ago  (edited ago)

I actually like it, as it affirms Voat's commitment to free expression. OP's title made clear what kind of content was within, when you click on it you agree to open yourself up to ideas you find distasteful.

I don't believe free speech should be relegated to some safe zone, it needs to be right out there in front for everyone.

If you hide free speech, is it really free?

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[–] p0ssum 8 points 6 points (+14|-8) ago 

If you hide free speech, is it really free?

I don't want them to hide it, I want them to post it where it's appreciated. If they want to pander to the racists, that's fine, let them. I don't give a shit, but what about a 4 months old article qualifies it as "news"?

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[–] Codyrl95 2 points 1 point (+3|-2) ago 

You mention that it's free speech, but do you really think that if this were about a SJW that voat would be so up in arms? The one thing this site has in common with Reddit is that the only free speech allowed is the free speech voat wants to hear.

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[–] ArgonianDovahkiin 2 points 32 points (+34|-2) ago 

Statistics are not thinly veiled racism, they are impartial by definition. Now, if you don't like a post just downvote or don't read it all.

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[–] p0ssum 6 points 4 points (+10|-6) ago 

they are impartial by definition

Bullshit. Statistics without context are just numbers.

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[–] Reddiggoat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No, don't down-vote if you dislike like an article. That's how we get Reddit. Down-vote if it breaks the rules or is in the wrong sub.

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[–] ShaHadien 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Just as you are free to express your distaste, they are just as free to express theirs.

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[–] p0ssum 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Agreed, why can't they do it where the audience is more appreciative and representative of people that WANT to see this?

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[–] chris 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

While I agree that there is a bit of racist undertones here, I don't think this post is an example of that.

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[–] p0ssum 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

It was published in April, why now is it considered "news".

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[–] Keftedes89 5 points 7 points (+12|-5) ago 

Please tell me the reason for the ban other than pushing certain ideas. There was no nudity, no sexual content, and no insistence for violence on that channel. I can't believe this is happening in front of my eyes.

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[–] Arrantus 8 points 7 points (+15|-8) ago 

I'd guess it has to do with him uncensoring the faces in the videos, especially given that the owners of the videos wanted them taken down. This is alarmist nonsense by a dock head who didn't wanna abide by privacy laws.

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[–] ran 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Which privacy law was violated?

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[–] surprisecockfag 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, because violent people CLEARLY deserve the same rights as everyone else lmao

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[–] djsumdog 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Well not laws, but policies, yes. Reddit had the same policies and Voat has them too.

We're dealing with private companies. Don't like YouTube taking down your video? Host it yourself or put it on Miro.

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[–] Keftedes89 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

He didn't film the ordeal though. So...?

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[–] Imapopulistnow 13 points 7 points (+20|-13) ago 

So, youtube and reddit have something in common...and probably coming to a Voat near you eventually...

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[–] mastranios 3 points 7 points (+10|-3) ago 

Let's hope not.

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[–] TheBuddha 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It did not stay out of Slashdot - not for lack of trying. We're a bunch of old crotchety men and they still meandered in to disrupt things recently. I do not actually post on Reddit or use the site.

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[–] G4 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I see no reason to think anything like that will happen as long as Atko and Putitout are in charge.

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[–] tork87 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I remember when Youtube started taking down videos of black kids acting like animals in classrooms, videotaped by themselves. They don't want America to see the truth. You know 60 Minutes is bullshit when they and other news organizations have not run exposes about the shit that goes on in black school districts. If the public even got to see one video of what goes on in your average classroom there, people would be outraged and demand to stop paying for their education.

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