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[–] C_IsForCookie 0 points 50 points (+50|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I’ve heard of no politicians extolling Americans to enjoy a good “toke” — but many are nevertheless plotting the regulatory and tax strategies for a post-legalization world.

Because this is the politically correct way to go about it. It's not ok to advocate for drugs, but it's ok to advocate for money.

Honestly I can't believe a state which is 1) broke, 2) huge, 3) FILLED with people who smoke weed, would not have legalized and taxed this already. It's free fucking money for fucks sake! Get your shit together! If California were on shark tank they'd get kicked out straight away.

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[–] Just_A_Human 0 points 52 points (+52|-0) ago 

Its terrible that the drug war will probably end because of financial reasons, not because it is the right and moral thing to do.

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[–] Zodi 2 points 32 points (+34|-2) ago 

Welcome to the USA, where freedom is restricted based on other people's sense of morality.

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

It's a shame that's the case. But regardless of the means, the end result counts of something

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[–] RevRound 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Money is the great motivator. People will swear up and down about how much they care about this or that, but if you really want to change behavior then it has to hit the wallet

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[–] voat-simulator 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well, it's really both. The majority of people campaigning for legalization do so on moral grounds, and have swayed public opinion by such means. Drug reform just happens to go hand-in-hand with prison reform, tax reform, and medical reform, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that you see a range of reasons given, especially when politicians aren't trying to commit political suicide.

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[–] Nwabudike_Morgan 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Not sure where you get the idea that CA is broke, we've actually spent the last few years arguing about how to spend a surplus. Things got a bit bad during the recession, but recovery seems to be going reasonably well except for the drought.

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[–] Diogenes_The_Cynic 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

We only have a drought because we took apart a bunch of dams.

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[–] Antropomorphic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't care the taxes, It's legal now!!! in a few years, no more social stigma, and people will have peace and fun without worrying for anything. That has to be the most pure and free feeling in the universe.

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[–] Pryce604 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well said, that money could definitely help out California big time.

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[–] ozdr 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

“I can make the case, if you can’t toke up and celebrate in public when it passes, it’s not legalization,” said Steve Kubby, one of the drafters of Proposition 215, current chairman of a cannabis-related company and Libertarian Party activist.

I like this guy.

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[–] CinnamicAcid 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

I don't. Keep that shit to yourself. I agree 100% that you have the right to smoke cannabis, but in a public area, one that is supposed to be for all people, I have the right to not inhale your smoke waste. Smoke on private property where the owner allows it (be it a bar, house, car, whatever), but I don't want to not be able to walk in a park without having potential asthma attacks. The same goes for cigarettes and vaping.

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[–] Doctor_Pooh 11 points -3 points (+8|-11) ago 

I'm arguably one of the biggest pot heads in the world but fuck that guy. If vaped or smoked cannabis doesn't just stay with the user like a person taking a sip of beer and I have personally witnessed people succumb to the influences of second hand smoke multiple times. Now admittedly the people had mental issues that cannabis triggered more so than actually getting intoxicated but it goes to show that our use can impact those around us. I like to think of it like going to a crowded bar and using a cup to launch beer at our faces instead of taking controlled sips. Obviously you're going to get some in your mouth but it's also going to cover other people and ruin a few nights making it a punchable offence if repeated. Us stoners should be treated no differently.

Also fuck legalization until the UN single convention on narcotics removes cannabis from being treated the same as opium or until our country simply removes itself from that piece of shit international war on drugs policy.

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[–] YikYak 1 points 25 points (+26|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You have personally seen people succumb to second hand smoke?

Riiiiighhht, maybe in a geo metro with snoop dogg and his crew of blunts, but not out in the open or on a patio.

For being "one of the biggest pot heads" you sure are wound up tight it seems.

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[–] ozdr 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

No one is blowing smoke directly in the faces of others and that is wrong. But it should be legal to walk down the street with a joint just like it's legal to walk down the street with a cigarette. There is plenty of air to breathe.

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[–] Spliffmaster 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

you wot m8?

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[–] ShimmyShimmy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

  1. I could smoke you under the table. I am confident in this.
  2. Succumb to second hand smoke? What does this mean? Can you get actually high from afterburn? Please blow it in MY face, it will help with the budget. In all my years on earth, I have never actually witnessed anyone getting high from 2X smoke. I have hot boxed many a small sportscar with my sober lady sitting shotgun. Sure she bitches about the smell, but is she high? I wish. If it worked she would shut up eventually (JK).
  3. Your analogy sucks. You smell alcohol on people for days after they drink, if you got a nose. Former alcoholics can smell that shit a mile away. So can clean people that know the smell of a user.
  4. I can agree on the legalization factor. Profit over Morals.

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[–] Kaysic 5 points 13 points (+18|-5) ago 

Finally, the Californians will stay home instead of fucking up the roads in Colorado.

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[–] hitlergeist 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

Implying CA residents don't just get a medical card or buy from their neighbor since practically every other house has a grow op.

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[–] Amelia_Earnhardt_Jr 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I work at a rec dispensary in Colorado and see at least a few California IDs everyday, a lot of people aren't comfortable with the medical and black market situations (don't ask me why, if I were in California I'd probably be doing a combination of both).

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[–] Zodi 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It seriously isn't hard. Just take an hour out of your day and 50$. You'll have free weed that same night by going to a dispensary and signing up with them.

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[–] macholatino 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Too many other states just likes to blame their problems on California. Anyone going to Colorado from California is going for touristic novelty.

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[–] Dumbtickles 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm sure the state budget will take a hit though.

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[–] poodog 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

We'll just roll up a phat new one

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[–] highuptours 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

In their defense, the Texans may do a better job of that. (We love you Texas! Keep bringing your tourism money here so we can continue to live in unsustainable economic conditions in beautiful mountain towns. (Just please let us do the driving))

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[–] 1859431 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Implying the roads have been any better in the past 15 years.

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[–] Kaysic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well the roads being shit is a given; I'm referring more to not having to worry about the maniac drivers.

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[–] pegun 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Next week's headline: "Diane Feinstein convinced marijuana legalization funding terrorists. Evidence from Big Pharma to back up claims".

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[–] InternetTuffGuy 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

Thanks, Obama! Now they will force our kids do heroin in public schools.

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[–] ShimmyShimmy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thanks OBAMA!

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[–] rumathlete_1 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You do realize that California has one of the largest prison populations right? With California being pro-gay, pro-drugs, pro-(anything left), why do you think they havent ended the state's war on drugs? and no its not because of northern california's conservative citizens, because even those conservatives can see the money to be made by selling weed. the problem is the private prison industry that is paying off politicians so they can continue to make money off the poor who sell pot in order to get by. the reason california looks so damn hypocritical is because of all the poor mexicans that are selling weed to get by, and these private prisons realize that if it is legalized their major way of making money will be walking about the prison gate. its poor mexicans selling weed that is funding california's prisons and these prisons will not give that up without a fight.

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

and no its not because of northern california's conservative citizens

SERIOUSLY, do any of you know what they hell you are talking about? THERE ARE NO "NORTHERN CALIFORNIA" CONSERVATIVES. Also, its not Mexicans who make up the majority of the incarcerated - it is African Americans. That is largely due to the three strikes law. Many were getting arrested for petty crimes like property theft. Geebus, regular Einstein we have here guys!

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[–] agent-99 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

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[–] PlayByPlayAnnouncer 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

There are definitely Conservatives in Nor Cal. It's no SD or OC mind you, but where there's money, there are Conservatives.

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[–] cwt 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

With California being pro-gay, pro-drugs, pro-(anything left), why do you think they havent ended the state's war on drugs?

They aren't pro-gay, they passed Prop 8. Also, marijuana legalization was on the ballot in 2010 and the citizens voted against it. So you can't say it's illegal because of politicians.

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[–] rumathlete_1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

it was mormons from Utah influencing and lying to the black and mexican communities that did that.

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[–] ShimmyShimmy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thanks OBAMA!

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[–] 96threpublic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What does Obama have to do with this?

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[–] jollycynic 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I doubt much will change.

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[–] poodog 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

If they legalize it, and Cali goes the way of Colorado... expect there to be a LOT more places to buy pot. You'll be able to get it everywhere out here... 7-11's, taco carts, pretty sure they'll even have a weed truck wherever there's more than 4 food trucks.

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[–] Al_Rubyx 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I disagree. It makes too much tax money the government is gonna legalize it.

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[–] novictim 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

It will start with school lunch programs that push pot brownies on your eight year olds.

And then in no-time your kids will be strung out on crack and heroine, selling their own lunches for some blow, and turning tricks in the high-school locker rooms.

You will know that they are no longer your kids, the little chums you raised with love and compassion and morals, when they start voting libertarian.

And, yes, these little animals will request to turn off you life support as soon as you lose consciousness.

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