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[–] nosg 33 points 20 points (+53|-33) ago  (edited ago)

Well I've been drinking coke since '06 quite regularly, and I'm 80k/1.75m. I also eat well and exercise, so no, soft drinks alone do not cause obesity. Any kind of empty calories combined with no physical activity do cause obesity. Stop blaming your problem to just coke.

Edit: As much as I like to prove my point posting a pic as sugested, I think that's too much of a hassle just to shut the ''you're fat bro'' haters up. Just don't believe me, I'm ok with that. Be happy, hit the gym, and eat a lot of pizza.

Edit 2: Well the downvote brigade has arrived. I had hope with Voat :(

Edit 3: Oh! I've been told it's called the v/fatpeoplehate touch. I wish these guys would keep their hate (and downvotes) on their sub :(

Edit 4: I don't really know how Voat handles it, but isn't this brigading? https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/422473

Edit 5: My response to the haters. https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/422473/1883753

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[–] slowdoars 3 points 78 points (+81|-3) ago 

Well, technically, your BMI puts you in the overweight range...

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[–] C_IsForCookie 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago  (edited ago)

80k/1.75m

175LBS / 5'9" - for anyone wondering.

Also...

'06

Is 2006. Just in case, you know, someone doesn't understand how years work.

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[–] r0x_mah_s0x 3 points 21 points (+24|-3) ago 

You're overweight dude.

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[–] KingCactus 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

175LBS

or 12.59 stones...

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[–] YourDumbWhat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Damn, this guy must have a lot of muscle mass, because I'm the same height and weigh 155. I don't exercise overmuch, so there's that, but I also don't drink sugar soda.

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[–] Omnicis ago 

175 at 5'9"? really?

Ive been mostly mocked as skinny all my life and I'm at like 145-150ish and 5'11"

sure, i'm not the same as him, but me being mocked as skinny and him being "fat" is a little odd imo.

especially when, at my fattest, I ballooned up to 185, and was still.. not fat (at least I didn't think so), just a bit out of shape.

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[–] supernatendo 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

"I'm 90 and have been smoking for 75 years!"

Survivor bias and anonymous internet testimony does not equal good evidence.

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[–] endlessly_wandering 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I think it's hilarious that you exercise yet because you drink soda are still overweight. Is this irony guys?

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[–] nosg 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

I lift to live, I don't live to lift.

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[–] Wonderboy 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

I'm going against the grain here. This kind of 'research' is really, really common. Researchers are not usually employed for more than a year or two and when they don't get 'research' they don't bring home a paycheck. Unfortunately this means a lot end up doing totally irrelevant and misleading research that isn't designed to push the boundaries of knowledge but intentionally produce an outcome that the sponsor can market. Your 'Scientifically proven' face cream needs a researcher to do an invalid study and show that in quantities far more than in the face cream, can reduce visible wrinkles, otherwise how can they say its 'scientifically proven'?

Ultimately it's rubbish but Coke using science to push blame elsewhere isn't new. There are other factors in obesity, hell I could chug 5k calories of sugary coke a day if I worked it off in the gym while I drank it.

Unfortunately the first wave of science that hits the media tends to be the BS science that pays a researchers wage. The lucky ones to do the real science are found in the well respected western journals.

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[–] YourDumbWhat 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

There are other factors in obesity, hell I could chug 5k calories of sugary coke a day if I worked it off in the gym while I drank it.

Great plan if you want to get diabetes in a hurry (though I agree with most of what you said).

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[–] unsweetenedsoymilk ago 

Well, unemployed scientists need to make a living too right? I bet tons of people wouldn't mind selling out to make a few bucks, it's human nature. That's why I'm very wary on where scientific reports are sourced from, who funds these studies, are there vested interests backing these studies. Anyone with good knowledge on the Scientific Method and Statistics can pump out credible looking/sounding research, even if it's purposefully twisted to fit their goals. Anyone remember that huge South Korean Stem Cell Research debacle?

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[–] hyperoperation 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

Soft drink companies are acting a lot like the tobacco companies did before the government dropped the hammer on them.

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[–] 654456 4 points 9 points (+13|-4) ago 

Except smoking actually causes cancer. Drinking soda alone doesn't make you fat.

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[–] HowieCameUnglued 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

It's addictive (caffeine, sugar) and provides no nutritional value while adding calories.

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[–] Zodi 3 points 5 points (+8|-3) ago 

Yes it does. If you do nothing to your diet but change soda for water, you'll lose weight. The opposite will occur if you switch water with soda.

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[–] endlessly_wandering 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

In a way it does because of sugar/fructose. It spikes insulin levels which blocks fat release, facilitates fat storage, and prevents receptors from telling the brain that you are full.

youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Calorie in/calorie out doesn't work if your never feel full and all available energy is preferentially turned into fat and simultaneously fat stores can't be accessed.

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[–] Tecktonik 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The tobacco companies actually did research to discover how dangerous their products were, they knew which compounds were carcinogenic, which compounds were addictive. They then spent enormous effort to prevent that research from becoming publicly known. The soft drink companies have gone beyond that point already, their current strategy is to muddle the debate and get people to talk about exercise as part of a healthy lifestyle, which redditors goats are happy to repeat every time the issue comes up. They (the sugar industry) have long ago corrupted Michelle Obama's health initiative, getting her to focus less on consumption and more on "moving more".

That said, it is a strategy based on desperation. The public health costs of continued sugar consumption are going to overwhelm the economy in the next decades. The only mystery left is which of these multinationals will still be standing, and if they will still be telling people to exercise more.

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[–] NoSympathy ago 

Agreed.
I personally rarely drink soda because I would rather use those calories towards something that fills me up for a long period of time.

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[–] HN 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

It's quite saddening that this borderline cartoonish corruption is completely normal, to the point that there's no outrage at all. It's like people gave up and accepted being lied to :(

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[–] endlessly_wandering 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Relevant: www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

TL;DW: Sugar and certain carbs spike insulin levels, which prevents the body from using fat for energy and simultaneously facilitates fat storage and blocks receptors that tell your brain that you are full. Sugar is literally a poison. It's why calorie in/calorie out is a completely failed model for weight loss. Where your calories come from matter.

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[–] r0x_mah_s0x 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Where your calories come from matter.

This is it exactly. So many people have been taught just really bad science about calories. The myth that a calorie is a calorie just makes me want to smack someone.

Thank you for linking that video and typing up the TLDR.

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[–] uberdoober 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Just like cigarette companies funded studies back in the day to support their claims that smoking was not harmful to your health. The moral of the story is simple, don't believe these studies as they are all based on junk science or cherry picked data. Eat organic, drink water, avoid fast food and processed sugar except for the occasional treat. Amazing how many Americans cannot comprehend this or make excuses for eating shit foods.

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[–] RayZfox 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

Soft drinks don't cause obesity. Over eating/drinking causes obesity.

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[–] r0x_mah_s0x 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Eh, it kind of depends on the person.

For lots of fat people, the number one reason that they are fat is carb consumption. Soft drinks are liquid carbs. Get the carbs down to less than 50 grams per day, increase intake of fat and protein, and the pounds will shed off. This can be down without counting a calorie.

Other people can chomp away at a high carb diet, not count cals, and never gain a pound.

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[–] Zodi 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Meanwhile, I'm in the middle. Literally got an "on edge of obesity" body, while all I do is eat pizza, chips, and all kinds of pastas.

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[–] Tecktonik ago 

Yeah, you are right. Soft drinks just cause malnutrition. Not nearly as important as obesity.

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[–] RayZfox ago 

Soft drinks cause malnutrition in the same way that waters causes malnutrition. If all you do is drink water you will die.

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