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[–] AKnightAlone 5 points -3 points (+2|-5) ago 

These people aren't peaceful protesters, they are thugs looting shit under the guise of a protest then when they shoot at the cops they act surprised when the cops shoot back or arrest them.

How do you propose we fix these problems if they're just going to continue generation after generation because of poverty?

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[–] reskeet 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

I don't know, but i would argue that these people who are looting shit and destroying the community they live in don't want anything to change, they just want free shit and see this as an opportunity. The people who legitimately want changes are the ones being robbed and having their business burned to the ground by these fucking retards.

For the people that actually want change? Do the same fucking thing I did, go to school, don't steal shit, don't sell drugs, don't buy into the "thug" life. When you are old enough get a fucking job, show up to that fucking job, save your money and then get away from the environment. The problem is that is fucking hard to do and it's a hell of a lot easier to blame "the man" for keeping you down and go loot some shit from people who actually work for a living.

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[–] AKnightAlone ago  (edited ago)

save your money and then get away from the environment.

This is easier said than done when your entire social group of peers are people who are hell-bent on pride in rebellion. I consider myself liberal because I don't see the value in demonizing people perpetually like this. If we want to help them when they've clearly fallen, we have to look at them as a physical brain in a physical body. What's that mean? Might as well look at them like a domino. One domino is fallen, a "thug." Pretty much no helping it. So there's also no use crying over spilt milk. No reason to blame the milk. No reason to blame them for being a thug if that's what they're doing unless it will help them to change, and most cases, pushing against a person who prides themself on rebellion will only increase their rebellion. So fuck them, basically. How do we help others to avoid that bad environment that led to them being trapped in that negativity? For one thing, fight the poverty and degradation that leads them to rebellion. In the case of welfare, it's degrading enough that we have widespread shame that goes toward those "takers." That's why I support a basic income. Something that everyone gets. You could shame people for not working, but you'd no longer be able to act like their life is better than yours. You'd have the same ability to quit your job and live off, whatever, $12,000/yr if you prefer.

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[–] kendamagendale ago 

Wow, that's a pretty wide net you're casting with that "thug" label...

But you probably don't follow a single person organizing or creating peaceful purposeful protest, so I guess that's understandable.

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[–] vuke69 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

because of poverty?

Don't be daft.

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[–] AKnightAlone 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

So I assume your argument amounts to: Blacks are subhuman and everyone like them needs to be imprisoned or murdered by the state, perpetually, until the end of time.