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[–] MarcoVincenzo 26 points 148 points (+174|-26) ago 

There is a continued sentiment that police officers are at war, and Boackle agrees. "You're only going to win a war if you have a good partnership, and right now the local police officers don't have that,'' he said. "The boots-on-the-ground officers across this country are at war, and if we do not have the help of citizens and local governments to stand behind us, we'll never win."

This is their problem, the only war they are in is one they have declared against the public they're supposed to be serving. And, as long as they're doing that the public will keep right on cheering those who take their war back to them.

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[–] Radio_neck 5 points 54 points (+59|-5) ago 

Very good point. I'd love to see more officers on foot than in cars. Start rebuilding relationships the old fashioned way: talking.

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[–] Eshu_Eleggua 1 point 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

In smaller towns cops and deputies do talk to the general public and for the most part aren't really aggressive. An aggressive cop does happen every now and again but they generally get canned pretty fast.

In larger areas I am sure they mainly get aggressive officers that are not that intelligent. Because of the low pay and nature of the job. I do agree with you though and feel that the police and citizens are part of the same community and need to work together for the good of that community.

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[–] Hipsterrr 4 points 12 points (+16|-4) ago 

except, in a lot of places, that's not possible.

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[–] OldBoris 11 points 0 points (+11|-11) ago  (edited ago)

When you speak of 'people', you mean packs rowdy niggers. The ones who have spent most of the last century committing crimes and fraud for a living, and ardently refuse to change their ways while insisting that everyone else is the problem. They don't have a particular problem with the police, they have a problem with everyone who doesn't submit to them. They don't want equality, they want power and wealth. That's why their modus operandi against 'the oppressive police' is to loot stores.

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[–] 1smartass 7 points 10 points (+17|-7) ago 

These are the words of someone who's never been a victim of the type of guy that pistol whipped the cop.

He has an extensive record with lots of victims.

You don't give a fuck about that because you've never been a victim.

Statistically, you're much much much more likely to be a victim of the type of dude that attacked the cop than a cop.

When you do become a victim, you'll probably be pissed because cops, detectives, or the justice system in general wasn't doing enough to protect you.

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[–] RumbledFeathers 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

Generalizing cops, totally OK. Generalizing black males who commit roughly 50% of the murders in this country despite making up like 7% of the population is evil.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

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[–] Mathurin1911 7 points 75 points (+82|-7) ago 

There is a continued sentiment that police officers are at war, and Boackle agrees. "You're only going to win a war if you have a good partnership, and right now the local police officers don't have that,'' he said. "The boots-on-the-ground officers across this country are at war, and if we do not have the help of citizens and local governments to stand behind us, we'll never win."

This is absolutely correct, police officers will continue to have a hard time if they do not have the publics respect, which is why they need to work hard to be worth such respect. Thats the part Boakle misses, respect is earned, not given.

Boackle said officers everywhere are hesitant, given the national climate. "There is a saying that 'he who hesitates is lost' and that's why (the detective) lost, because he hesitated,'' Boackle said. "If the officers on the streets were not in fear of losing their jobs, it wouldn't have gotten to the point it did yesterday. Officers are second-guessing every move because they're afraid they're going to be judged, by the media and by the public."

We are where we are not because an officer hesitated, but because officers refused to properly investigate other officers, for decades pretty much every shooting was justified, every beating was because the suspect resisted, and who were we to believe, the officer or the criminal? Now we have video, the impartial witness, and it shows officers blatantly violating law and abusing citizens and their rights, but when it does we see the police still havent changed their tune.

This fear of being judged is only novel because use of force wasnt given proper scrutiny in the past, now you reap the rewards, the people no longer believe you, the people no longer trust you, the people no longer respect you. The onus is now upon you to act in a way that is worthy of respect, to cease supporting the brotherhood over justice.

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[–] firex726 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Also what LEO is in fear of losing their job? They are by far one of if not the most protected job for people to have. They have both admitted to and had video recordings of them doing criminal activity and not been fired. Say what you will of the Teachers Union, if a teacher recorded themselves molesting a kid, the Union would not get within a mile of defending them.

But the police will attack their fellow officers if any of them get out of line to enforce the law on each other; and even admit that they are entitled to break some laws while off duty by virtue of their job.

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[–] CryHavoc 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Careful about giving the teachers union more credit.

No mention of filming but there is definitely evidence. I know it's a few years old but I haven't seen any reasons to think it has changed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/16-new-york-teacher-accus_n_1409184.html

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[–] daskapitalist 13 points 61 points (+74|-13) ago 

Let's clear something up here: Armed manned claiming to be a LEO despite a complete lack of evidence thereof (like a uniform, marked vehicle, etc) stops someone at gun point without a warrant, and the person he stopped beats his armed assailant with the assailant's own weapon.

I'm not seeing the problem here. If some guy on the street stops you at gun point, what would you do? Hope he really is who he claims to be and not a homicidal lunatic?

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[–] creep 3 points 14 points (+17|-3) ago 

There is indeed a heavy spin to that article that downplays that this cop was not in uniform when he attempted to play cop. Should we just believe everyone in plain clothes is a cop? Or should cops instead expect skepticism from the public when they aren't in uniform?

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[–] blackblarneystone 3 points 12 points (+15|-3) ago 

truth.

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[–] No_mad 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

  1. He STOPPED him with a car using blue lights. That's a pretty good indication of a police officer everywhere except your fantasy land.
  2. From the article: " He approached the vehicle, and told the the suspect to stay in the SUV while he waited for a marked unit for backup. Cunningham got out of the vehicle despite the officer's demands, and began to question the detective about why he was being stopped" - Another pretty good indication of a police officer.
  3. About your hero: " Cunningham has a criminal history dating back to at least 1999, and was just arrested in June for driving without a license . He was convicted in 2011 of disorderly conduct; 2006, second-degree assault; 2003, robbery and assault; 2000, three counts of receiving stolen property; 1999, breaking and entering a vehicle. In addition to those convictions, Cunningham has been arrested multiple times during the same time period on charges including assault, attempted murder, robbery and menacing, but those charges were dismissed. "

Then, after the fight, your 3 heros fled, jumped out of the car, and had to tracked with dogs.

Your claim that this is some kind of mistaken identity attack is, using the simplest description, idiocy.

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[–] heili 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

He STOPPED him with a car using blue lights. That's a pretty good indication of a police officer everywhere except your fantasy land.

Anybody can get lights, cheaply, and 'cop impersonation' is a common enough ruse that it's been on the news here many times. I'm not about to trust anyone in an unmarked car wearing plain clothes is actually a cop.

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[–] Tsugumori 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

Did he show his badge? The article doesn't say one way or another but I know it's SOP to. Not that he necessarily did, but the distinction is pretty crucial.

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[–] Sorahzahd 6 points -2 points (+4|-6) ago 

Wearing a uniform during stops is also SOP.

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[–] drakesdoom 6 points 43 points (+49|-6) ago 

If you are trying to kill someone with a gun you wouldn't hit them with it.

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[–] aileron_ron 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

Well Fullerton cops did use a tazer on Kelly Thomas betting him in the face.https://www.google.com/#q=kelly+thomas

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[–] drakesdoom 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I didn't say it couldn't be done, just pointing out he has a strong chance to get lowered charges because he didn't shoot him.

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[–] dindonuffin 10 points 26 points (+36|-10) ago 

Judging by the pic in the article it's clear that this guy din do nuffin.

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[–] 1Sorry_SOB 5 points 7 points (+12|-5) ago 

the new meme is referring to African Americans as Dindus

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[–] CollegeSnapper 7 points 7 points (+14|-7) ago 

It's because their response when they're caught red handed is literally "I dindu nuffin wrong." Or any black person who was found guilty of a violent crime, their family says, "He was a good boy. He never would have done something like this."

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[–] BoiseNTheHood [S] 24 points 16 points (+40|-24) ago 

#PoliceLivesMatter

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[–] scrotums 16 points 13 points (+29|-16) ago  (edited ago)

#FuckThaPolice

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[–] TotalWar 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I love how in a thread, where people belittle and attack the police for saying that their is a war on them downvote a comment making the suggestion (heaven forbid) that police lives matter and instead upvote a comment saying "#FuckThaPolice" Great way to prove their point.

Armchair police are the fucking worst.

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[–] 1Sorry_SOB 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

"Not long after the attack, photos began to surface on social media showing the detective lying face down on the pavement. Another photo showed him bloody and kneeling, but awake. In some cases on Facebook, the photos were accompanied by words of support for whoever beat the detective."

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[–] api 3 points 44 points (+47|-3) ago  (edited ago)

So this is probably going to sound incoherent, but:

You know, even though police brutality is a horrible thing that goes on, there's still not much justification for doing it back to them. Yes, people shouldn't be beaten/murdered/etc., but we won't get anywhere if it's just done like this.


EDIT: As @NeedleInAHaystack put it,

doing unjust things to people who do unjust things doesn't bring about justice.

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[–] NeedleInAHaystack 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I don't think that sounds incoherent, doing unjust things to people who do unjust things doesn't bring about justice.

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[–] Chompchompers 5 points 9 points (+14|-5) ago 

But will talking with the police accomplish anything? It has been shown time and time again that the police are not willing to talk to you without harming you first. Remember the guy that just got murdered by the police when he asked them for help because his wife was threatening to kill him?

If you can settle things with them peacefully by all means do so. Convince them to stop treating everyone like we're punching bags. But if you cannot settle things diplomatically settle it with a sword.

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[–] LazarusLong 4 points -1 points (+3|-4) ago 

If they wear the badge, they deserve it.

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[–] Sorahzahd 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

If he didn't want his ass beat, he shouldn't have pulled a gun on someone without identifying himself as a cop, period. Fuck 'im.

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[–] V-sync 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

This country is sick.

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[–] Vhaine ago 

Three generations of rampant liberal ideology has apparently achieved all of its goals.

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